Message from @Maw

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2021-01-03 22:04:04 UTC  

Each political party represented on the ballot gives their own representative for adjudication.

2021-01-03 22:04:27 UTC  

Which was a total of 4+1.

2021-01-03 22:04:49 UTC  

Or 3+1

2021-01-03 22:06:11 UTC  

Fair enough

2021-01-03 22:08:26 UTC  

It was 3+1.

2021-01-03 22:08:38 UTC  

Was Biden, Trump, and Jo on the ballot.

2021-01-03 22:12:05 UTC  

And they're also not poll watchers.

2021-01-03 22:12:18 UTC  

They're literally the vote review panel.

2021-01-03 22:12:26 UTC  

But from the same article showing how many ballots went through the process they explained a small fraction of the votes in the batches actually gets that review process. This was intentionally left out and they pretended the bulk of the votes were changed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/795414295076012043/image0.png

2021-01-03 22:12:49 UTC  

Well not bulk all

2021-01-03 22:13:11 UTC  

Just because they go to adjudication doesn't mean they're changed, rarely does it mean they're changed.

2021-01-03 22:13:24 UTC  

Only really "changed" when it's an overvote.

2021-01-03 22:13:42 UTC  

Yeah agree that’s the crux of the adjudicators are determining the whole election fraud allegation

2021-01-03 22:14:19 UTC  

And overvotes are things like having held a pencil/pen on a candidate and then voted for the other.

2021-01-03 22:14:29 UTC  

Which is usually clear to see by the vote review panel.

2021-01-03 22:16:14 UTC  

Most of the adjudications were <20% fills.

2021-01-03 22:16:25 UTC  

Which means the choice is obvious to a voter review panel.

2021-01-03 22:16:40 UTC  

Someone used a checkmark in place of circling it in, etc.

2021-01-03 22:16:42 UTC  

Also - I know you know this, but I point it out for others that might be reading, people assume that the need for adjudication is always related to the presidential race My guess is that the vast, vast majority of adjudications have nothing to do with the presidential race. They tend to be problems with races where multiple candidates can be selected.

2021-01-03 22:17:00 UTC  

That's also one of them, yep.

2021-01-03 22:17:36 UTC  

Anything with <=20% fill and anything that has exclusive selections having more than one selection are adjudicated.

2021-01-03 22:19:00 UTC  

Also I think recently they had said to use checkmarks in ballots rather than fill out the marked area.

2021-01-03 22:19:08 UTC  

Which would increase adjudication rates.

2021-01-03 22:24:38 UTC  

One of the biggest issues for me, though, is the assumption that the letter next to your name (party affiliation) means that one is willing to cheat (compromise their integrity) in order to gain the upper hand for their party. I can tell you that absolutely none of people that I know who volunteer to help with elections would ever debase themselves in that manner - and I know people on both sides of the aisle that do election work.

They consider their service in support of our democracy as virtually a sacred duty. That doesn't mean that some of them don't get a little haughty at times, but it would never lead to them turning a blind eye to or participating in fraudulent activity. I have to imagine it is the same for the vast majority of election workers.

2021-01-03 22:25:39 UTC  

This is the idea behind Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.

2021-01-03 22:26:15 UTC  

Why on earth would you presume the worst from someone you don't know? It's more often than not more correct to give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise.

2021-01-03 22:26:44 UTC  

This goes in hand with making really weird accusations against people that have otherwise done nothing wrong.

2021-01-03 22:27:15 UTC  

Presumption of innocence.

2021-01-03 22:29:03 UTC  

Which is inherently more likely from the outside perspective without additional info/bias?
Fair election.
Fraudulent Election.
Easy answer.

2021-01-03 22:30:41 UTC  

Yeah... It happens on both sides, sadly. We are our own worst enemy. Almost none of the people who voted for Trump are fascists or racists. And almost none of the people that voted for Biden are socialist/communist/antifa etc.

And yet everyone focuses on the "almost" and very few on the "none".

2021-01-03 22:31:27 UTC  

Its very satisfactory to point out the idiot. It makes you feel clever.

2021-01-03 22:32:27 UTC  

This is why you, as a politician, need to point out the idiots in 2020

2021-01-03 22:32:34 UTC  

Agreed.

2021-01-03 22:32:39 UTC  

your followers needs someone to feel better than.

2021-01-03 22:32:42 UTC  

In a tactful way.

2021-01-03 22:32:49 UTC  

This is what happens when people regress culturally.

2021-01-03 22:32:54 UTC  

If I agree with you, what does that say of me?

2021-01-03 22:32:55 UTC  

So you don't turn into another Hillary.

2021-01-03 22:33:08 UTC  

@TaLoN132 that you are human?