Message from @Indra
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Purgatory is biblical and patristic
the EO have their own "version" of purgatory called toll houses
The central dividing issue between EO and Catholicism is the papacy due to the schism of 1054
The Prots don’t all hold to the five solas, though. That’s noteworthy.
So EO is kinda like RC lite?
No, not at all.
We’re fundamentally different in our philosophies and understandings of God, the Trinity, and many other things.
The “Catholics without a Pope” meme is misleading.
We share 1000 years of history so there's similarities, but since then there have been developments
We are far more conciliar.
Yes, that’s a better description. Similar on the surface but we are *very* different.
You’re scratching the surface right now. Wait until you get into Palamas and Aquinas.
The Orthodox reject papal supremacy, the Filioque, Catholic purgatory, mortal/venial distinction, shaved priests, the idea of developing doctrine, and using unleavened bread in the Eucharist to name a few talking points.
Palamism and Thomism are not serious, irreconcilable differences
They are, but that’s neither here nor there.
do you watch Jay Dyer?
Sometimes.
you should stop watching him
I am aware of aquinas but have not read any books and my experience with apologetics thus far has been just watching yt vids/debates with like ravi, lennox, WLC, etc
I don’t really take much value in a Catholic telling me to stop watching Dyer.
Even if you're EO he's extremely belligerent and a terrible representative of the faith
One can see the good in him.
Whatever good is overshadowed by his ego-mania
Fr. Spyridon, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Fr. John Behr are pretty good.
If dirty hands give you money, it’s still money.
Thats the sin of avarice
You’re being petty and dishonest at this point. It’s a metaphor. Your own Pope is a modernist and heretic according to most, yet you still submit to his authority. It’s the same line of reasoning.
There it is
There’s nothing left to say. You just want me to be angry. God bless you, friend.
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@Indra Im sry bro but I dont accept friends or dm's unless I know the person irl
Its just an opsec procedure I have
@Deleted User if you have questions about the Catholic faith you're welcome to join the server "Catholic Community Chat"
I think id rather stay here
@Vincentius Hey sorry for the ping but, you seem pretty knowledge about Catholic teachings. I'm a Protestant but, is there anything resource-wise you'd recommend for someone who wants to give Catholicism a fair shake?
Of course. The best place to start is the Catechism. There's many different versions due to developments over time but I personally recommend the Catechism of the Council of Trent since it was written in response to the rise of the Protestant revolt. You should be able to find a free PDF online. In terms of websites there's vatican.va which contains important magisterial documents, catholic answers website catholic.com for various questions, newadvent.org that provides various works connected to the church (church fathers, ecumenical councils, St. Thomas Aquina's *Summa*, etc) and of course you can find the rosary prayer anywhere. You're also welcome to join the server i linked above, lmk if you need anything else.
Thank you so much for the quick response. I'll start to go over some of these in the morning. God bless!
@Deleted User Alright. If you ever want to know more about Orthodoxy, don't let the bitterness from those inside or outside of it sway your opinion too much. Religion is naturally a touchy subject.
I can link you some people worth watching or servers worth joining.