I mean I didnt know at the time, but still

dunno. would have to look into it more

uh. at the most it will only be a venial sin. if they are heretics

I think they might believe in like "aryan jesus" or something

based.

Wait isnt that wrong tho?

I dont know, hopefully Ill find out what they're all about one day tho

tru. wouldn't worry about it too much. just avoid it to be safe tho.

Ill go ahead an email them and ask them what they're about

hahahah

"Jesus was a nonwhite refugee"

he was hebrew but other than that he didnt immigrate to sweden or smthn

yeah. tell me later if they reply

Is novus ordo valid?

I was having a conversation with someone on the validity of the Ordinary form of the Roman Rite, and he states that there are a few things wrong with Novus Ordo that would make it invalid;
1. The priest and the people are on the same level on the novus order
2. It's profane. has no value or respect for what’s sacred
3. It took Christ from the center and put the priest and the assembly in their place

And I've also heard arguments that priests ordained under the new rite are invalid, can someone refute this claim?

Yes

How is it valid? Im trying to explain to someone that it is indeed a vaild mass

And all priests and clergy ordained underneath the new order are valid

The simple thing is that the ordination and liturgical rite is allowed to be changed to whatever the pope wants since it’s not set in stone

Validity isn’t about how he feels about it

He calls it profane, do you have any arguments that would refute that claim?

It’s his opinion. They still consecrate the sacrament and distribute it. There’s no disrespect in how it’s performed

He a sede?

Not sure, but if he is then that would answer why he takes into question the legitimacy of the Novus Ordo mass

He is not, he recognizes that pope francis is our pope

Would I be correct in saying that any statement on liturgy cannot be infallable, as it would have to be universal?

Therefore the Church reserves the right to change it?

(But obviously not reverse it)

If he recognises the papacy then he must submit to it

Liturgical rites can’t be set infallibly because it’s not a matter of faith and morals

Yeah they can change and reverse it because it’s a doctrine rather than a dogma

The only way you can do it invalidly is if you say the wrong words for the consecration or don’t have holy orders

And an infallable statement has to be universal

Anyways on a better note, our mass is going back inside this comming week, and I am excited to celebrate the mass indoors once again

I had to call and reserve a spot, hopefully my parents wont get mad at me for wanting to go, (they're still worried about all the covid stuff)

Im also hoping it'll be in english because usually the early morning masses are in spanish in my area, and I do not know how to speak spanish 😂

And I memorized the Ave Maria prayer, so I can now pray about 70% of my rosary in latin

Infallible statements can come from extraordinary magisterium too

All extraordinary magisterium is infallible but not all universal or ordinary

True doe