niv isnt approved, but its ok for general verses usually

Yes, i am saying that in todays society, religion doesn't work anymore. It's proof is that there are too many non practising catholics, christians and athiests in america. You can blame mtv, sitcoms and media but the peoples minds have been settled that there is no god. If the non practising believed in god, they wouldn't be non practising.

Today people in america follow the ethics of the bible without realising it. They see it as "common sense". The common sense was created by the bible and i want more people to read the bible as a "common sense book" rather than a "god will strike you down if you don't believe in him" even if you agree with all the parables and teachings of the bible and live by them.

Ten commandments as an example

Saying religion doesn’t work because people aren’t being religious is silly. The main reason degeneracy of all forms is so prevalent is because a lot of people ditched Christianity. People don’t want to follow a bunch or moral restrictions, especially the sexual kind.
It also doesn’t change whether it’s true or not. Numbers of adherents doesn’t determine validity.

As for the common sense part, you can’t take that alone. It does not work. You have to take the entire thing, punishments and all. You can’t have rules with no accountability to God. There’s no reason not to do something if there’s no negative consequences.

@Big_tonez

Also people ignore at least half the Ten Commandments. You are required to believe and follow God to follow the ten. If you are just picking and choosing what’s the point of reading it for common sense then. You are basically relying on people already having common sense to read about common sense

Is there anything in the bible that talks about swearing?

“I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.”

So yeah no in the middle with god

dont use his name in vain

https://twitter.com/basedzoomernat/status/1335334000756314112?s=21

I would actually like to point out part of the reason American society has become much more secular and less based around Christianity can be attributed to the incentives that capitalism (I’m not a socialist so don’t mistaken me as such) has brought onto the American people.

It has incentivized a hyper-individualistic, consumerist, and hedonist culture because of all the products it provides. It might have helped with basic necessities like food and water but it’s also eroded our previously more traditional Christian culture

For instance, when the invention of the automobile occurred and people were buying cars, there was a skyrocketing of shotgun marriages because you had a lot of 18 year olds having sex in the back of cars. The invention of birth control means people can have sex without any worry of repercussions (a child being born, granted I would rather if degenerates are to be promiscuous to take contraceptives rather than cause an abortion). And cellphones/computers have allowed for the mass production and accessibility of porn (I don’t think I need to explain how much of a detriment this has been for men)

Capitalism is useful for producing an abundance of products but it doesn’t have any inherent moral goal or priority as to what is done with the products or wealth it creates

most Groypers arent crazy pro capitalism for these reasons

I think groypers are pro capitalism but not absolute free markets

we have problems with it but definitely arent socialists

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What woke me up to this issue prior to ever considering myself as a Paleocon was way back when I was a libertarian-conservative and I followed a YT channel called 1791-L (or 1791 now, and they’ve become discontinued because youtube was fucking over their monetization or some shit). They made a video called “The Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro Split” that was a real redpill on the ramifications of globalized, free trade capitalism

I suggest you guys check it out, it’s a really well done video

Just did, it’s very well done. Did they go somewhere after their demonitization

Americanism was, in the years around 1900, a political and religious outlook attributed to some American Catholics and denounced as heresies by the Holy See. In the 1890s, European "continental conservative" clerics detected signs of modernism or classical liberalism, which the Pope had condemned in the Syllabus of Errors in 1864, among the beli...

what does this mean brothers

Afaik, they have been discontinued since the last video uploaded on their channel. I vaguely followed/knew about them back in 2017 where they were a much more “libs mad” channel and taking some more mainstream Republican positions on gun control and BLM and had tons of clips however a lot of those clips I think they removed/privated and the videos that stayed were largely more well-formatted videos on politics and culture.

But since then, they’ve become discontinued because of how Youtube was hurting their views and monetization so they no longer make content and all their content can be gained through some paywall they have on Gumroad. I can’t recall the specifics of it all but you can probably find their merch store and website on google

Their website from what I remember had the reasons for why they became defunct

The 2 main creators behind the channel are Christian O’Brian (He goes by COB1791 on Twitter) and Lex Villena (He goes by lex_net on twitter and LexCorp on Youtube where he has some of the songs he’s produced for the 1791 channel that are there)

It may work if you are an individual but from a political overview and societal standpoint people have turned away from god. Some people have turned in demonistic plagues and degeneracy but most people are just normal people who are moral and have some hang ups like pornogrpahy and sexual promiscuity. And no man is perfect according to the bible.

If i lead my life by entirely the bible but disregard metaphysical elements like god, jesus preforming miracles and prophets, simply because it's too far fetched. You can say I'm picking and choosing but I'm only picking and choosing the stuff that is of this earth which i believe to be the only thing that matters how i live my life. I can understand the stories and parables without believing in god. If you are gay you are often involved in gay orgies, bathroom sex, degeneracy, mental health problems. This is an obvious reason that is apparent to me and why it is the wrong thing to do.
Obeying your parents is obviously correct because as a child they know more than you and as an adult, they have faught for you and they deserve your respect.

"Forgiveness" clears your mind and allows you to be at peace again.

Again, you are picking the moral laws without acknowledging the moral lawgiver. This won’t work since you can dismiss any rule you like whenever you like. Saying no man is perfect is no justification for people being promiscuous.
Picking and choosing what you think is of earth ignores that Jesus literally came to earth, died and was resurrected. Without him doing those 3 things the church would never have existed. Without him doing those 3 things the bible wouldn’t have a New Testament.
You also ignore that morality, human nature, justice, perfection, philosophy, and metaphysics are not of this earth either. Having a purely naturalistic philosophy is broken and simply wrong.
Many of the parables centre around what God is like, what heaven is like or how God will judge. These things are incredibly important to how you live your life. You are just picking and choosing what you feel like.
As for your examples you are choosing best case scenarios for when you know it works. You ignore when a parent is bad towards a child, or when someone lives with their partner faithfully for years without getting married. These are still covered under the laws but I would suspect that you consider the “common sense” to be flexible and in certain cases you would ignore it completely without consequence.
You are watering the bible down very much. Your philosophy is broken and I doubt you have a coherent metaphysical explanation for what is.

@Big_tonez

I got a question: What do Catholics believe gets them saved? Just wondering since a lot of you seem to be genuine Catholics at least

I can’t tell based off google whether or not they believe in a works based salvation or not. It’s probably more nuanced than I think it is. Could someone explain?

You must have valid baptism to initially be saved, after that you simply must not be in mortal sin

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Be baptized in the catholic church, and dont die in a state of mortal sin

Does anyone know of any other pocket sized DR bibles?

I want to see if you guys reccomend any others before I spend 50$ on the baronius press one

I use online stuff mainly