Message from @Indra

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2020-10-29 17:10:06 UTC  

@REEEEEEEE123 at the same time, morality shouldnt only be followed after the bible

2020-10-29 17:11:21 UTC  

what

2020-10-29 17:11:24 UTC  

@shovel wdym

2020-10-29 17:13:30 UTC  

i mean that

2020-10-29 17:13:33 UTC  

theres some limits

2020-10-29 17:13:36 UTC  

of human decency

2020-10-29 17:13:41 UTC  

as in not having casual sex

2020-10-29 17:13:47 UTC  

even if its encouraged by the bible doesnt mean you should do it

2020-10-29 17:14:43 UTC  

casual sex isn't encouraged in the Bible.

2020-10-29 17:14:55 UTC  

It isn't casual between a wife and a husband.

2020-10-29 17:15:17 UTC  

Im talking casual sex between a husband and wife

2020-10-29 17:15:25 UTC  

This is deeper and richer than sex for pleasure, and it is certainly biblical to appreciate sex as a physical manifestation of God's statement that "they [the husband and wife] shall become one flesh"

2020-10-29 17:15:32 UTC  

^^^

2020-10-29 17:15:34 UTC  

Its more than just casual

2020-10-29 17:16:36 UTC  

intentionally thwarting sex's natural end to procreation is immoral

2020-10-29 17:17:06 UTC  

its like vomiting out food after eating to continue enjoying the taste

2020-10-29 17:17:28 UTC  

Thats not what Im arguing.

2020-10-29 17:17:51 UTC  

okay I thought you were arguing for contraception

2020-10-29 17:18:14 UTC  

lol no

2020-10-29 17:18:17 UTC  

Sex is fine as long as you’re married and are open to the possibility of a child while doing it.

2020-10-29 17:18:17 UTC  

there is a spiritual/emotional aspect of sex, thats one reason why rape is so bad cuz of the emotional damage

2020-10-29 17:19:03 UTC  

There’s a reason that St. Paul writes how when you fornicate with a prostitute that you both leave a piece of one another with you.

2020-10-29 17:19:19 UTC  

Sex isn’t “just sex.” It is a spiritual transaction.

2020-10-29 17:20:02 UTC  

@Indra The bible does say that a married couple can mutually agree to temporarily not have sex but that they should eventually "join back together" to ward off evil influences

2020-10-29 17:20:17 UTC  

There is a specific verse, not sure which

2020-10-29 17:20:30 UTC  

There have been “brother and sister” type marriages in the past, before. Saints have done it.

2020-10-29 17:20:50 UTC  

Though the priest usually would encourage consummation for spiritual reasons.

2020-10-29 17:21:14 UTC  

St. John of Kronstadt is a relatively recent example.

2020-10-29 17:21:23 UTC  

What are these "brother and sister" marriages?

2020-10-29 17:21:31 UTC  

I but they are common in alabama

2020-10-29 17:21:32 UTC  

No sex ever.

2020-10-29 17:21:42 UTC  

No, this isn’t about incest.

2020-10-29 17:21:56 UTC  

They live as if siblings more than lovers.

2020-10-29 17:22:16 UTC  

St. John of Kronstadt was more worried about his priestly duties than consummating his marriage, for example.

2020-10-29 17:22:52 UTC  

His wife begged him once to at least just consummate since they’d been married for many years, but he insisted they instead prayed all night to ward off the passions.

2020-10-29 17:23:25 UTC  

I’m not really arguing a specific point, just contributing something neat to know.

2020-10-29 17:40:59 UTC  

Some guy in another server im in wants to start a civil war

2020-10-29 17:44:57 UTC  

OSU 1 year anniversy

2020-10-29 17:45:03 UTC  

@everyone