Message from @Clare P
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JP it's obvious you've never argued with a woman because men can't win don't even try once she gets pissed off it's over
I am just saying I get that it is her body and her final choice, but men should not be forced into silence over this because we have a penis, isnt that discrimination too?
Not really some things some have long end of the stick on
I think the father should be informed so as to have a chance to talk her out of it that's all, it sucks that women can do this then tell the guy after or even not at all
That I agree with but being a deadbeat father no no if you're going to have sex without protection don't be shocked later on
well there are guys who you would think would make a bad father, but who step up.
exactly Phil. But it's not dictating. The unborn child is counting on both parents to save its life. men need to step up and act as the father when they have created a life.
Many step up that's my point, but unless they are told about the pregnancy they have no chance
See there's the other thing making babies just for a free paycheck we have entirely too much of that going on spreading legs and pumping out units is not a career choice
yeah we have that here too Phil
yes Jp and lied too that it is a simple procedure and that it is a blob of tissue/cells. Horrific. In those instances the greater sin lies with the abortion industry. when some women realise that they have been lied too, they spend the rest of their lives in terrible grief and guilt over 'choosing' an abortion. Tell the truth to both men and women about the unborn child's development - that changes hearts and minds
I knew a woman who had an abortion at 16 and she couldnt have children later in life after that, it broke her up
No, don't agree with that. Men are not idiots - women and men perfectly compliment each other
Jp - the unborn child is not a woman's body - separate DNA, separate heart and body forming so it NO-ONE's right to take that away.
that's a good point
and doesn't God decide who lives and dies? Do we have the right to play God?
Exactly that is the bottom line. Thou shall not kill - that means from conception right up to natural death. If you can start qualifying when a life is worth killing then there is no end to it.
a murdered unborn might just have been the person who would have cured cancer or invented interstellar travel, who knows?
Apologies guys if this chat got very serious but all my life from the age of 11 onwards, i have been passionately pro-life, no exceptions and that is only one part of the reason why I support and love President Trump. Any man that is pro-life and actively so, gets my loyal vote and support
and thats just the people whose mother admitted it
Exactly. martin Sheen's wife was a survivor of abortion and look at the dynasty they created. Abortion ends a branch of a family tree.
Many women who abort a pregnancy live with the guilt there whole lives. How can a young girl of 16/17 understand what that means?
to actually live it I mean
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it messed up the woman I knew who had it done so much that she couldnt form a relationship with any guy at all, adoption would have been a far better choice for her but how could she have known that at 16
she got suckered at 16 seduced by an older married guy who was 38 her talked her into it paid for it
*he
Exactly. I have worked with women who 30 years later after a military career, still cannot forgive nor forget what they did. Every time they hear a new born cry, it traumatises them. The bond between a mother and child lives on beyond the grave. I believe that no matter how old a woman is, if she is old enough to get pregnant, she will have all the instinctive tools to bear that child. Society needs to provide practical assistance to women in this situation not provide murder as an option to deal with it. It is a life after all.
state sponsored murder
That's hiding his crimes. Abortion never solves anything, in fact it does away with the 'evidence' of rape, incest, abuse.
Skimming the conversation here, dropping a meme for you Clare as well
okeydokey, thanks
hey @Free2Think I hope your pain has gone
That's it in a nutshell. It is one thing if a woman chooses this (which to me is no choice at all) but it is the greater sin to have a state/law that legislates for the deliberate and intentional murder of an unborn child for profit - BIG business
I wish! Up so early because back won’t let me sleep. Have been restless since 3am
I am sorry to hear that
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