Message from @Matthew
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They haven't had shootings since
Legislation doesn't mean that guns have to be taken away either, maybe NZ will implement stricter background checks
What the hell makes you think background checks would've stopped this guy
I suppose we'll figure out if he has a history, but he HAD the guns.
@Matthew I mean if someone plans to do something like that they will always find a way to do it
It might have helped prevent someone like him from acquiring the guns in the first place though
Exactly, so the point is that the everyman should be armed and capable of defending oneself, not that guns should be restricted further.
The cops took more than 10 minutes to respond to this
typical that a discord mod is willing to lick the boot so readily.
Making proper distinction of what can be owned by hobbyists and what not
NZ police is now seeking to get rid of the shooting footage
@Semi Truck mc Clusterfuck that seems futile
God forbid someone see how ineffective and slow to respond state-run defense is.
Once it's out there
he killed most with a shotgun and people stood around for minutes. at this range and the fact everyone collectively froze meant he could have done this with a bolt gun and a shotgun
Someone almost tackled him in the mosque, that hero almost ended this early.
I would say he tried to run away past him
but it's not like we can ask
@Tribit yeah, there's already loads of links circulating, and already loads of people who've downloaded it
looks like he killed most people with the carbine
tons of people downloaded it but if it can't be further spread way less will see it
it's off even live leak
cleared the entrance with the shotgun, dropped it, then went and killed most people in the main hall with the carbine
and he couldn't have done that with a shotgun?
Out of all those people, only one tried to stop him.
he could've, but he didn't
But he *tried*.
well we're talking if more gun control could have stopped it
and I'm saying it wouldn't have
he was nuts and could hide it well enough till this poiny
Only if it were complete and omnipotent gun control.
the weird thing is he walked like two blocks with his guns and no one stopped or even looked up at him
Full-auto Sten guns are trivially easy to make.
that wouldn't work on a large scale like the US, but it could definitely work in a small place like NZ
the gun control that is
Too densely populated and too many guns, NZ has a pretty robust gun culture.
not widely talked about but there
same in norway
update: over 27 fatalities