I didn't even know NZ had guns

not anymore

they saw what happened after Port Arthur, I doubt they will let themselves get reeee'd into turning them in

The one time you choose to NOT be cynical, john.

Expect legislation to be introduced literally tomorrow, both in the US and NZ

introduced, yes same as they've been introducing for years. I'm realistic, not pessimistic.

It has worked out well for Australia

shut up, faggot

The only time there was a mass killing there was when a fuckwit drove over emus with his car

@Matthew it's true though

They haven't had shootings since

Legislation doesn't mean that guns have to be taken away either, maybe NZ will implement stricter background checks

What the hell makes you think background checks would've stopped this guy

I suppose we'll figure out if he has a history, but he HAD the guns.

@Matthew I mean if someone plans to do something like that they will always find a way to do it

It might have helped prevent someone like him from acquiring the guns in the first place though

Exactly, so the point is that the everyman should be armed and capable of defending oneself, not that guns should be restricted further.

The cops took more than 10 minutes to respond to this

@Matthew well sure with the appropriate legislation that's fine

typical that a discord mod is willing to lick the boot so readily.

Making proper distinction of what can be owned by hobbyists and what not

NZ police is now seeking to get rid of the shooting footage

@Semi Truck mc Clusterfuck that seems futile

God forbid someone see how ineffective and slow to respond state-run defense is.

Once it's out there

he killed most with a shotgun and people stood around for minutes. at this range and the fact everyone collectively froze meant he could have done this with a bolt gun and a shotgun

Someone almost tackled him in the mosque, that hero almost ended this early.

I would say he tried to run away past him

but it's not like we can ask

@Tribit yeah, there's already loads of links circulating, and already loads of people who've downloaded it

I disagree. He was definitely trying to intercept the shooter and tackle him.

looks like he killed most people with the carbine

tons of people downloaded it but if it can't be further spread way less will see it

it's off even live leak

cleared the entrance with the shotgun, dropped it, then went and killed most people in the main hall with the carbine

and he couldn't have done that with a shotgun?

Out of all those people, only one tried to stop him.

he could've, but he didn't

But he *tried*.

well we're talking if more gun control could have stopped it

and I'm saying it wouldn't have