Message from @Aerione

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2016-09-02 01:46:10 UTC  

Well, not "themselves", but they have way to do so

2016-09-02 01:46:15 UTC  

yeah they move out into a place a prisoner would turn their nose up to but the application process for the loans is all the parents, they're the ones calling as registered third parties

2016-09-02 01:46:23 UTC  

and dealing with the shit, not the students

2016-09-02 01:46:41 UTC  

so saying bring along a pen to cross shit out is crazy, the student never shows up, it's mummy and daddy

2016-09-02 01:46:43 UTC  

which is crazy

2016-09-02 01:46:53 UTC  

they're not the ones paying it off

2016-09-02 01:46:53 UTC  

That's a weird system

2016-09-02 01:47:18 UTC  

it's all done online here

2016-09-02 01:47:23 UTC  

I mean, same here

2016-09-02 01:47:34 UTC  

It's just that everything is connected to the student itself, and no one else

2016-09-02 01:47:36 UTC  

but 99% of all calls I ever had was the parents, rarely ever the student

2016-09-02 01:47:59 UTC  

the parents didn't have the same privileges but if they had the student mumble out some security they could do anything

2016-09-02 01:48:02 UTC  

If payment is neglected, the loan taker will be the one to receive punishment

2016-09-02 01:48:27 UTC  

over here it comes off wages and if you never earn more than the threshold it gets wiped after 25 years

2016-09-02 01:48:29 UTC  

So naturally, the loan taker will have to be the one taking the responsibilities

2016-09-02 01:48:43 UTC  

>thinking some 17-18 year old twerp gives a shit about all that

2016-09-02 01:48:51 UTC  

most people don't even plan for their retirement before 30

2016-09-02 01:49:25 UTC  

much less a loan they take out pre-20 years old

2016-09-02 01:49:31 UTC  

I'm sure they will when their money gets cut when they neglect certain duties

2016-09-02 01:49:51 UTC  

Such as actually studying to meet the criterias

2016-09-02 01:50:12 UTC  

I dunno

2016-09-02 01:50:29 UTC  

Most of the criteria are pretty easy here, I think they're talking about making it harder

2016-09-02 01:50:35 UTC  

I feel your system is flawed in the sense that it gives very little physical feedback to the kid commiting to the loan

2016-09-02 01:50:49 UTC  

I never touched the scottish system

2016-09-02 01:50:53 UTC  

just english

2016-09-02 01:51:04 UTC  

So naturally, they'll get complacent and accrue major debts without realizing it

2016-09-02 01:51:25 UTC  

the only scot I got had his mum threaten to come after me with a baseball bat

2016-09-02 01:51:45 UTC  

hung up immediately anytime I heard a stoner/junkie scot voice after that

2016-09-02 01:51:52 UTC  

not worth it

2016-09-02 01:52:25 UTC  

english system is harder because £9000 tuition fees paid off by the loans

2016-09-02 01:52:32 UTC  

scotland doesn't have tuition fees

2016-09-02 01:52:39 UTC  

less burden on you

2016-09-02 01:52:56 UTC  

english get sucked into a sense they have to study and to study they need maximum loans

2016-09-02 01:53:08 UTC  

so they're not all that interested in the terms

2016-09-02 01:53:17 UTC  

What stops the English kids from moving north and studying there?

2016-09-02 01:53:25 UTC  

need to remain here for 3 years

2016-09-02 01:53:33 UTC  

a lot of people want to get a move on and enter at 18

2016-09-02 01:53:41 UTC  

a lot of english move up though

2016-09-02 01:53:47 UTC  

takes some planning

2016-09-02 01:53:53 UTC  

3 years is the duration of most educations, though

2016-09-02 01:54:00 UTC  

3 years pre-education starts