Steve its like you can't see the forest from the Trees

At the Jordan river, when God through Joshua brought Israel into the Promised Land, we again read about water, God's Word, and Spirit. It was no coincidence that Jesus was baptized in this same river. But now, on account of Jesus, we're led into the heavenly Promised Land. Jesus’ name in Hebrew is Joshua. Jesus is the new Joshua who leads us into the kingdom of God through Baptism. That's why he tells Nicodemus, “Truly, truly, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God, without being born of water and Spirit (John 3:5). We are born again in the Jordan of Baptism.

**John 3:5 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<5> Jesus answered, "Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. ```

You can not use the New Testament to prove the New Testament. Circular reasoning.

Shhh

and read

Since you prefer the OT read this

Tell me what you think it may be referring too..

Finally, Ezekiel the prophet preaches about how God will speak His Spirit into us in the last days. God says, “I will sprinkle clean water upon you to cleanse you from all your impurities… I will give you a new heart and place the new Spirit within you… I will put my Spirit within you and make you live by my statutes, careful to observe my decrees. You shall live in the land I gave your fathers; you shall be my people, and I will be your God” (36:25-26a).

read it closely brother

Nicodemus. We are born of water. What it refers to. Reincarnation.

"I will sprinkle clean water upon you to cleanse you from all your impurities".....this is screaming Baptism brother

its proclaiming it with a thunderous voice

We get a new heart in a new body. A new life in a very good land.

we know baptism cleanses you from sins....

so....its right ther ein ezekiel

When the water breaks the child is born.

New heart. New place. Reincarnation.

Water breaking is a far cry from thunder.

Again in reference to the passage I quoted in Ezekiel, I feel like you cant see the forest for the trees

Why was John the Baptist asked are you Moses. Are you Elijah. They all know his father as he was very important in the Temple.

@Derek Nelson was a figure of speech

They had to have believed in reincarnation.

Because John was a holy man doing the will of God.

And he said he was not the Christ.

So a figure of speech there to dismiss it. But a long reach is true when you want it to be.

They believed in a lot of things that were not True Steve. The Talmud is a great place to start....just because theyt may have believed in reincarnation does not mean its true

Just saying there are reasons to believe in reincarnation.

"It is for a MAN to DIE ONCE.....then the Judgment "

i dont think so

Not that you should believe it. You should stay christian.

yes we should

the Bible trumps your "reasons"

Reincarnation would mean I could place myself as Horatio Nelson. Where I could claim I’m your hero. It’s a load of crap.

Murders have been solved by people who remember a past life. There is a lot of evidence reincarnation is real.

thats a lot of spiritism and bull

Sorry I could not be of more help Steve in trying to explain this to you, I am still learning myself and I too can be very stiff necked when it comes to certain doctrines....take the trinity for example. We are all learning. As long as we are willing to listen, there is a chance we will come to the truth its when we stop listening entirely that we risk losing everything.

what murders?

There was a man murdered in Europe. I forget which country. He was reborn and told authorities all about it after explaining a city he had never been in. He went there with them and showed them the grave and instruments used to kill him. They were able to convict the man based on that evidence, not his testimony.

like QUATTO said.. " Open yer mind.... Open yer mind"

I have memories that are quite beyond logic. Why they’re there, I don’t know. Point being is there is nothing that matters, if Christ isn’t your hero. Because he’s mine.