Message from @Brian (Fourth Amendment)
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There are a number of examples brother of baptism in the OT
I can find more if you like?
Baptism comes up again in the story of the Flood (Genesis 6-9). Cain's children had practically ruined the world since "every thought of their hearts was evil every day of their lives." But God's Word, water, and the Holy Spirit (the breath of Life) brought about a regeneration and renewal of the world. Noah and his family, eight people in all, were saved from judgment by water, God's Word, and the Spirit.
Baptism comes up again at the time of the Exodus. When the Israelites were led through the waters of the Red Sea, St. Paul teaches us that this was a Baptism (1 Cor 10:1-2). He writes, “…our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea, and all of them were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.” Israel was saved from bondage through water, God's Word, and the Spirit (the cloud that went before and behind Israel was the presence of God). In the same way, God saves us from the Egypt of slavery to sin and death by leading us through the Red Sea of Baptism.
Clean and unclean. A woman was unclean because of her period. Everyone washed before going to the Temple daily. You washed a lot according to this law to get clean. Sort of like what we do when we shower. Nothing at all like baptism.
Evil was destroyed Steve.....and how was this done? By Baptism of Gods people, a washing away of sin and uncleanliness.
thats not completely true
steve
To claim there is no account of baptism in the OT is intellectually dishonest my friends.
Excuse me the people walked on dry land across the seabed. They did not get wet.
a woman wasnt unclean JUST because of her period
Steve, Spiritual Baptism
Yes she was.
Look at Noah and the flood
The water was merely representing what God does. When we turn to him, he cleanses us.
Look at Noah and the flood. Another example of Gods WORD, and spirit cleansing the world and the unrighteous by baptismal waters
Women were unclean most of the time.
(1 Cor 10:1-2). He writes, “…our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea, and all of them were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.” Israel was saved from bondage through water, God's Word, and the Spirit (the cloud that went before and behind Israel was the presence of God). In the same way, God saves us from the Egypt of slavery to sin and death by leading us through the Red Sea of Baptism.
This seems to make it clear Steve
It is like you look for water in the Old Testament then anything found you say Baptism. No Baptism is a specific rite. It has a specific purpose in most religions.
(1 Cor 10:1-2). He writes, “…our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea, and all of them were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.” Israel was saved from bondage through water, God's Word, and the Spirit (the cloud that went before and behind Israel was the presence of God). In the same way, God saves us from the Egypt of slavery to sin and death by leading us through the Red Sea of Baptism.
Steve its like you can't see the forest from the Trees
At the Jordan river, when God through Joshua brought Israel into the Promised Land, we again read about water, God's Word, and Spirit. It was no coincidence that Jesus was baptized in this same river. But now, on account of Jesus, we're led into the heavenly Promised Land. Jesus’ name in Hebrew is Joshua. Jesus is the new Joshua who leads us into the kingdom of God through Baptism. That's why he tells Nicodemus, “Truly, truly, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God, without being born of water and Spirit (John 3:5). We are born again in the Jordan of Baptism.
**John 3:5 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<5> Jesus answered, "Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. ```
You can not use the New Testament to prove the New Testament. Circular reasoning.
Shhh
and read
Since you prefer the OT read this
Tell me what you think it may be referring too..
Finally, Ezekiel the prophet preaches about how God will speak His Spirit into us in the last days. God says, “I will sprinkle clean water upon you to cleanse you from all your impurities… I will give you a new heart and place the new Spirit within you… I will put my Spirit within you and make you live by my statutes, careful to observe my decrees. You shall live in the land I gave your fathers; you shall be my people, and I will be your God” (36:25-26a).
read it closely brother
Nicodemus. We are born of water. What it refers to. Reincarnation.
"I will sprinkle clean water upon you to cleanse you from all your impurities".....this is screaming Baptism brother
its proclaiming it with a thunderous voice
We get a new heart in a new body. A new life in a very good land.
we know baptism cleanses you from sins....
so....its right ther ein ezekiel
When the water breaks the child is born.
New heart. New place. Reincarnation.
Water breaking is a far cry from thunder.
Again in reference to the passage I quoted in Ezekiel, I feel like you cant see the forest for the trees