Message from @Jacob

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2019-02-17 08:12:07 UTC  

Being a libertarian was kind of fun though haha

2019-02-17 08:12:37 UTC  

I actually still have a lot of left over libertarian tendencies

2019-02-17 08:12:49 UTC  

Libertarianism is a very valid stance in a homogeneous culture

2019-02-17 08:13:21 UTC  

Unfortunately that is not what we have, but it can work when applied to a culture with similar customs and traditions

2019-02-17 08:13:46 UTC  

There's a book out called white right and libertarian and I wanna check it out

2019-02-17 08:14:42 UTC  

TDS had the author on and he seemed like a smart dude

2019-02-17 08:15:19 UTC  

I still believe in a social pressure to maintain certain values that we hold dear, but I don't believe that social pressure in and of itself conflicts with a Libertarian government. As long as the government is strong enough to maintain the borders and defend the people that's what's important

2019-02-17 08:15:55 UTC  

I mean why wouldn't you be able to maintain your culture in a libertarian society?

2019-02-17 08:16:10 UTC  

Because of things like radical individualism, but again that's where social pressure comes in

2019-02-17 08:16:44 UTC  

In an all white libertarian society there would be a ton of culture right?

2019-02-17 08:17:03 UTC  

People could just be themselves

2019-02-17 08:17:30 UTC  

well, we have to remember that the system we had in the past led us to where we are today

2019-02-17 08:18:00 UTC  

so not *every* system works in a homogeneous society, because some of those systems lead us to situations like what we have right now

2019-02-17 08:18:18 UTC  

we *did* have a homogeneous society, and the system we had destroyed it

2019-02-17 08:18:20 UTC  

Hmm yeah I guess that's true

2019-02-17 08:18:37 UTC  

So it would have to be nationalist libertianism?

2019-02-17 08:18:49 UTC  

If that's not an oxymoron haha

2019-02-17 08:18:54 UTC  

@Jacob that's right, and a lot of that was due to manipulation of the media, although the media impacted our culture and mitigated a lot of those previously held social pressures that prevented people from being so openly degenerate for lack of a better term.

All I'm saying is that we need to retain a sort of social pressure in order to maintain a homogenous culture

2019-02-17 08:19:20 UTC  

And that I still think that falls in line with a libertarian government because social pressures are not necessarily laws

2019-02-17 08:19:22 UTC  

@Current Ronin I don't know if capitalism is sufficient to prevent situations like what we have today

2019-02-17 08:19:27 UTC  

even if there is a veneer of nationalism

2019-02-17 08:20:31 UTC  

I think I liked libertianism because i always had issues with authority figures. Teachers, bosses, whatever. I hated being told what to do if it was something I wasn't passionate about or disagreed with

2019-02-17 08:20:37 UTC  

I'm not super hardcore on this and I don't think it's worth creating division in the movement over, but I think it's worth looking into

2019-02-17 08:26:42 UTC  

I do believe that capitalism can contribute to the degradation of society. Some people are perfectly content to profit off the people that they should be caring about even if that profit made means harm to the society.
e.g. Big Pharma
I think that although a society should strive to make money, it should do so with the well being of its people in mind first.

2019-02-17 08:27:04 UTC  

I'm not blatantly anticapitalistic by the way, I'm just saying that I understand some criticisms of it.

2019-02-17 08:27:46 UTC  

Good luck making that work in america right now. We live in a continent sized shopping mall

2019-02-17 08:27:48 UTC  

I'm becoming more anti-capitalist over time but I mean I consider anyone who wants to create and preserve white homelands to be an ally

2019-02-17 08:28:43 UTC  

@Current Ronin I totally agree with you, we've been sold out and sold out so many times I don't even know who we're owned by anymore (I do tho)

2019-02-17 08:29:04 UTC  

Oh..we all know haha

2019-02-17 08:29:39 UTC  

It's totally black pilling but eventually you come to the realization that America has been a joke of a country since ww2

2019-02-17 08:29:47 UTC  

It's embarrassing

2019-02-17 08:30:02 UTC  

It's just cool that we have a network of like-minded people who care, I honestly was so glad to learn that there were others

2019-02-17 08:30:21 UTC  

@Current Ronin and I totally agree, we lost our identity after World War II. We weren't allowed to have it anymore.

2019-02-17 08:30:23 UTC  

Have you got to hang out irl yet?

2019-02-17 08:30:38 UTC  

@Current Ronin no I haven't, I actually just had my interview today, I'm still awaiting my second interview

2019-02-17 08:31:27 UTC  

Ohh for sure. Yeah man me and some people went and saw degenerate stand up comedy last night and got drinks. Super fun

2019-02-17 08:31:46 UTC  

Hopefully you'll have some people close by to kick it with

2019-02-17 08:32:19 UTC  

Oh that's awesome, yeah I can't wait for that man. I have literally Met 0 people IRL that hold these beliefs.

2019-02-17 08:32:43 UTC  

It's kind of alienating. Although I guess you never know, I've just never had a conversation with somebody in agreeance to this irl

2019-02-17 08:32:58 UTC  

Dude its like you've known them forever haha it's super weird but cool at the same time

2019-02-17 08:33:47 UTC  

That's great, I'm glad there's camaraderie. it's very important to have in general, but when it's for a purpose it's even better.