Message from @Jacob
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Being a libertarian was kind of fun though haha
I actually still have a lot of left over libertarian tendencies
Libertarianism is a very valid stance in a homogeneous culture
Unfortunately that is not what we have, but it can work when applied to a culture with similar customs and traditions
There's a book out called white right and libertarian and I wanna check it out
TDS had the author on and he seemed like a smart dude
I still believe in a social pressure to maintain certain values that we hold dear, but I don't believe that social pressure in and of itself conflicts with a Libertarian government. As long as the government is strong enough to maintain the borders and defend the people that's what's important
I mean why wouldn't you be able to maintain your culture in a libertarian society?
Because of things like radical individualism, but again that's where social pressure comes in
In an all white libertarian society there would be a ton of culture right?
People could just be themselves
well, we have to remember that the system we had in the past led us to where we are today
so not *every* system works in a homogeneous society, because some of those systems lead us to situations like what we have right now
we *did* have a homogeneous society, and the system we had destroyed it
Hmm yeah I guess that's true
So it would have to be nationalist libertianism?
If that's not an oxymoron haha
@Jacob that's right, and a lot of that was due to manipulation of the media, although the media impacted our culture and mitigated a lot of those previously held social pressures that prevented people from being so openly degenerate for lack of a better term.
All I'm saying is that we need to retain a sort of social pressure in order to maintain a homogenous culture
And that I still think that falls in line with a libertarian government because social pressures are not necessarily laws
@Current Ronin I don't know if capitalism is sufficient to prevent situations like what we have today
I think I liked libertianism because i always had issues with authority figures. Teachers, bosses, whatever. I hated being told what to do if it was something I wasn't passionate about or disagreed with
I'm not super hardcore on this and I don't think it's worth creating division in the movement over, but I think it's worth looking into
I do believe that capitalism can contribute to the degradation of society. Some people are perfectly content to profit off the people that they should be caring about even if that profit made means harm to the society.
e.g. Big Pharma
I think that although a society should strive to make money, it should do so with the well being of its people in mind first.
I'm not blatantly anticapitalistic by the way, I'm just saying that I understand some criticisms of it.
Good luck making that work in america right now. We live in a continent sized shopping mall
I'm becoming more anti-capitalist over time but I mean I consider anyone who wants to create and preserve white homelands to be an ally
@Current Ronin I totally agree with you, we've been sold out and sold out so many times I don't even know who we're owned by anymore (I do tho)
Oh..we all know haha
It's totally black pilling but eventually you come to the realization that America has been a joke of a country since ww2
It's embarrassing
It's just cool that we have a network of like-minded people who care, I honestly was so glad to learn that there were others
@Current Ronin and I totally agree, we lost our identity after World War II. We weren't allowed to have it anymore.
Have you got to hang out irl yet?
@Current Ronin no I haven't, I actually just had my interview today, I'm still awaiting my second interview
Ohh for sure. Yeah man me and some people went and saw degenerate stand up comedy last night and got drinks. Super fun
Hopefully you'll have some people close by to kick it with
Oh that's awesome, yeah I can't wait for that man. I have literally Met 0 people IRL that hold these beliefs.
It's kind of alienating. Although I guess you never know, I've just never had a conversation with somebody in agreeance to this irl
Dude its like you've known them forever haha it's super weird but cool at the same time
That's great, I'm glad there's camaraderie. it's very important to have in general, but when it's for a purpose it's even better.