Message from @Bibleman

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2019-07-10 02:33:38 UTC  

Genesis 32:28

2019-07-10 02:33:40 UTC  

**Genesis 32:28 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<28> And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. ```

2019-07-10 02:34:13 UTC  

Genesis 32:28 cjb

2019-07-10 02:34:14 UTC  

**Genesis 32:28 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<28> Then the man said, "You shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with humans, and have prevailed." ```

2019-07-10 02:34:18 UTC  

But look in your KJV and see that Israel is italicized, which means translated from original source

2019-07-10 02:35:27 UTC  
2019-07-10 02:35:34 UTC  

And He said, “Your name is no longer called Ya‛aqoḇ, but Yisra’ěl,

2019-07-10 02:36:03 UTC  

What the real names were. Transliteration is false and very wrong and evil to do.

2019-07-10 02:38:12 UTC  

The KJV lies when they call that translation.

2019-07-10 02:38:45 UTC  

We call Netanyahu just that. We do not transliterate the name into some English name.

2019-07-10 02:38:49 UTC  

people always say things like that, but it's just translations

2019-07-10 02:39:12 UTC  

the only "lie" i can think of it using "the LORD" instead of God's name.

2019-07-10 02:39:22 UTC  

No Transliteration. Not translation. They admit it was transliteration. I say that is evil.

2019-07-10 02:40:10 UTC  

so using letters not in other alphabets is evil

2019-07-10 02:40:12 UTC  

wut

2019-07-10 02:40:19 UTC  

Call Netanyahu Nathan and see how that goes.

2019-07-10 02:40:25 UTC  

it's how people would pronounce things differently

2019-07-10 02:40:51 UTC  

How is it so hard to say Yahcob or Yisrael?

2019-07-10 02:41:28 UTC  

Yaakov you mean

2019-07-10 02:42:15 UTC  

H3290
יַעֲקֹב
ya‛ăqôb

2019-07-10 02:42:22 UTC  

it's pronounciation of words used by people over time that has changed

2019-07-10 02:42:45 UTC  

that isn;t evil

2019-07-10 02:43:01 UTC  

Most likely pronounced Yahcob. I would have no problem if they translated it properly.

2019-07-10 02:45:48 UTC  

the hebrew letter Bet is pronounced as a B when used in the front of a word and as a V when at the back of a word

2019-07-10 02:47:13 UTC  

But they know full well that Jacob was not what it was. They know full well Yisrael. Yet they transliterate anyway. They even change Iakob (Jacob) to James to honor King James. Who else are they honoring?

2019-07-10 02:47:50 UTC  

really? to honor King James?

2019-07-10 02:47:57 UTC  

have you read any older bible than KJV

2019-07-10 02:48:21 UTC  

Now I understand it could be Jacob or Iacob because it is hard to know I or J as originally they were the same letter.

2019-07-10 02:48:27 UTC  

it's simply the pronounciations changing over the years as languages changed, the 1526 Tyndale has the names all different too

2019-07-10 02:48:44 UTC  

Changing Jacob to James. Come on.

2019-07-10 02:49:01 UTC  

time passes and pronounciations of words change as time progresses because of languages

2019-07-10 02:49:16 UTC  

King James. Come on be reasonable.

2019-07-10 02:49:43 UTC  

this hebrew word movement is a distraction to keep you focused on that rather than more pressing matters

2019-07-10 02:50:18 UTC  

to jews you become as a jew, to gentiles you become as a gentile

2019-07-10 02:50:24 UTC  

this is a pointless debate

2019-07-10 02:50:24 UTC  

In Greek
H3290
יַעֲקֹב
ya‛ăqôb

2019-07-10 02:50:47 UTC  

Jacob.

2019-07-10 02:51:34 UTC  

Should I go to church this week?

2019-07-10 02:51:40 UTC  

I suppose. It is of little real importance.

2019-07-10 02:52:08 UTC  

depends what your church teaches

2019-07-10 02:52:18 UTC  

I think the nearest one is Baptist