Message from @Citizen Z

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2019-06-12 22:37:01 UTC  

2019-06-13 15:42:03 UTC  

Do people who discuss stuff civilly get banned from here regularly?

2019-06-13 15:42:21 UTC  

And can someone be a bit upfront with that before I even try.........

2019-06-13 16:08:37 UTC  

No, this isn't 24/7. But be prepared for an actual debate - back up your claims with evidence.

2019-06-13 16:13:40 UTC  

Yes. Good advise.

We can prove no bendy water.

No one can prove bendy water

2019-06-13 16:13:48 UTC  

Show me bendy water

2019-06-13 16:19:55 UTC  

splashing doesn't count

2019-06-13 18:07:29 UTC  

To know if water bends over long distances we have to understand what we're looking at

2019-06-13 18:08:06 UTC  

@Drewski4343 That's good, just got banned from there for nothing.

2019-06-13 18:09:12 UTC  

Actually, not feeling debating anything just now. Might be back later today, gonna work on some horizon curve data. Just finding videos and through a simply straight forward methodology find the relevant portions of each one.

2019-06-13 22:20:52 UTC  

@Citizen Z tides prove bendy water

2019-06-13 23:37:10 UTC  

Slightly slanted water over thousands of miles. Not bendy

2019-06-13 23:37:46 UTC  

The surface is still level

2019-06-13 23:38:01 UTC  

Flat for all intensive purposes

2019-06-13 23:54:26 UTC  

The question is how you know that @Citizen Z

2019-06-13 23:54:55 UTC  

I see a lot of people cling to the presupposition that water is flat and then use that as an argument for a flat earth

2019-06-13 23:55:01 UTC  

That's just circular reasoning

2019-06-13 23:55:18 UTC  

Evidence for/against bendy water is just evidence for/against flat earth in general

2019-06-14 00:32:30 UTC  

Waiting for your experiment to prove your bendy water. Everyone is taught water finds and maintains level. When have you ever seen a large body of water bending? The globe model is circular reasoning. Flat earthers are the ones who go out to large bodies of water and make observations that tell us the earth doesnt curve at 8 inches per mile squared.

2019-06-14 00:33:39 UTC  

Don't start with the presupposition that water has to be flat in all scales, you aren't actually taught "water in larger scales are always geometrically flat"

2019-06-14 00:33:51 UTC  

Id like to know why you think i should believe the water curves when all observation and measurement tell us otherwise?

2019-06-14 00:34:02 UTC  

Because they don't.

2019-06-14 00:34:07 UTC  

@Albert Einstein yes you are taught that

2019-06-14 00:34:26 UTC  

Horizon = horizontal

2019-06-14 00:34:37 UTC  

Well I certaintly haven't, but you agree that type of presuppositional reasoning has no place here.

2019-06-14 00:34:52 UTC  

Whether you were taught or not, you shouldn't just assume it is true.

2019-06-14 00:35:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/588889114276003840/Screenshot_20190613-173458_Chrome.jpg

2019-06-14 00:35:43 UTC  

That definition doesn't mean anything either, I can show you plenty of definitions used in spherical models also for elevation, level or anything like that.

2019-06-14 00:36:18 UTC  

Water on small scales will be horisontal if no other forces are acting on it.

2019-06-14 00:37:22 UTC  

I'm good! A bit tired, I really should go to bed, past 2 am where I live. How are you?

2019-06-14 00:38:01 UTC  
2019-06-14 00:38:03 UTC  

All that extra time 😛

2019-06-14 00:38:08 UTC  

Use it well!

2019-06-14 00:38:59 UTC  

@Citizen Z I agree it will be flat on small scales, I don't agree that we have reason to believe it has to be flat on all scales

2019-06-14 00:45:36 UTC  

Anyways, bedtime for me. I'll be back tomorrow @Citizen Z

2019-06-14 00:46:44 UTC  

@Albert Einstein so you admit we are taught that and there is no reason to believe it works differently on a large scale other than fake pictures and mathematical construct made by liars and fallible men. You are believing what you were told without being able to verify it. Thats the problem here..flat earth is verifiable and globe earth is not.

2019-06-14 00:46:49 UTC  

K cya

2019-06-14 00:49:22 UTC  

"You are believing what you were told without being able to verify it. Thats the problem "
Ditto

2019-06-14 00:49:44 UTC  

Always start out with not knowing the answer then find your way, that way you will look at the data more objectively.

2019-06-14 00:55:05 UTC  

I don't really care

2019-06-14 00:55:22 UTC  

Ah okay, I'll do it either way. Good night!