Message from @Québec Man
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Because they don't.
@Albert Einstein yes you are taught that
Horizon = horizontal
Well I certaintly haven't, but you agree that type of presuppositional reasoning has no place here.
Whether you were taught or not, you shouldn't just assume it is true.
That definition doesn't mean anything either, I can show you plenty of definitions used in spherical models also for elevation, level or anything like that.
Water on small scales will be horisontal if no other forces are acting on it.
I'm good! A bit tired, I really should go to bed, past 2 am where I live. How are you?
All that extra time 😛
Use it well!
@Citizen Z I agree it will be flat on small scales, I don't agree that we have reason to believe it has to be flat on all scales
Anyways, bedtime for me. I'll be back tomorrow @Citizen Z
@Albert Einstein so you admit we are taught that and there is no reason to believe it works differently on a large scale other than fake pictures and mathematical construct made by liars and fallible men. You are believing what you were told without being able to verify it. Thats the problem here..flat earth is verifiable and globe earth is not.
K cya
"You are believing what you were told without being able to verify it. Thats the problem "
Ditto
Always start out with not knowing the answer then find your way, that way you will look at the data more objectively.
I don't really care
Ah okay, I'll do it either way. Good night!
Flat earth is easily provable and is common sense
Observe ... report what you see.. common sense
Well what do we observe over water?
@Citizen Z I disagree that it is easily provable or even common sense. I don't think there is something about a sphere earth which violates common sense.
The essence of the problem here is how we interpret what we see, over water this is extra tricky because it will essentially change everyday you observe something. One day maybe 50 percent of an object is obscured, say 60 feet, on another day that might be 30 and on rare occasions the whole thing is seemingly visible.
But I think only sticking to these water tests are kind of an overly restrictive thing, if we can show that earth most likely is a sphere then it follows that water is most likely curved.
LOL
Globe trolls =)
@Citizen Z My point is that if you start out with the assumption that water cannot curve, you can post-hoc rationalize all the data (if your definitions of things are rather vauge) to fit the bill.
Like that image for instance
My point is if you start out thinking it does curve....lol
Everything you say you need to apply to yourself lol
I start with not knowing, then look at the data and find the best explanation for all of it.
Sure you do lol
Yup
Liar lol
Is the horizon curved at higher elevations?
Does object drop from eye level with distance following the simple equation for a circle?
Obstruction