But not if you are in one car

yes and relativity describes that as well

it is nonintuitive

A car can not go the speed of light.

Yes i was using his example

No matter can according to the theory.

but the fact we can't accelerate an electron to C no matter how much voltage we put across a parallel plate should be suspect enough that C is special

Velocity v examplw

So question i guess

It's a textbook example of classical mechanics utterly failing at relativistic speeds

It just proves that method has a limit.

yes... Which is what I mean by domain of applicability I mentioned earlier

we still use classical mechanics for nonrelativistic claculations

When you ignore two beams of light approaching each other. You prove this is not at all about science.

If we drove a car toward that electron why wouldnt the velocity appear to go faster than light

Both of us basically have the same question here with different set ups i think

Because a scientist will say use our formula and then judge the speed based on it. It is like the square root of zero.

@the21cat because no matter what we do, no matter where we do the experiment or how fast we are going, no matter how much voltage we apply across the parallel plates we NEVER get the electron going at C

if you found out a way to get an electron going faster than C please publish your work you will immediately get ~$100,000 and a nobel prize

Light approaches light at 2C. That is so obvious. To not believe that proves you know nothing at all about science and only religion sold as science.

read up on special relativity. Funky things happen from lights perspective. Time is funky at that speed

you don't get bigger than C in any reference frame however

But relative to our speed...... So if we approach at speed C wouldnt it relative to our speed be about 2C or greater than c atleast

No it would never be accepted. This is religion. They excommunicate anyone who questions it. They fire them in other words.

@the21cat no, the way the velocity transformations work is no matter how large your Velocity is nothing can appear faster than C

Like I said this is totally nonintuitive

Because we do not live in such conditions and don't have everyday experience with it

It is just a theory. Were it true you could measure the velocity of earth with C. Yet you can not unless the earth does not move.

but the fact we cannot get an electron to go C is suspect enough. This is an easy experiment, take out the cathode Ray tubes from your TV and try yourself

@Drewski4343 hey sry I stepped out

I tested this in a lab at college. I am not disputing it. What I am disputing is the velocity of the earth. Zero if this works.

it's not zero, it can be whatever less than C. Whatever it is we will never see anything faster than C

and when you say velocity of earth

It must be relative to something else

@raspberry buoyancy doesn't need entropy/thermodynamics. But it's underlying cause is thermodynamics. For example, it assumes fluids have pressure to hold themselves up...entropy describes where this pressure comes from

In a vacuum light should not know where it is. Thus the speed should be C. Period. Any difference would be the velocity of the earth. Yet this experiment says the earth is motionless. Yet they deny that. Houston we have a problem.

@Drewski4343

it doesn't say earth is motionless, you can only say earth is motionless if you believe we should be able to get that electron I've been talking about to go faster than C lol

so go ahead and try, if you get the electron going faster than C you're right

If the electron is moving fastwr than light but only appears to move at speed C then it wouldnt be a problem

the earth could be motionless