Message from @Steve Angell
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they are both going at V, right?
V
All based on this theory that C is a proven constant. It is not and it is easily proven false with light.
that's what I am saying about two light beams
But not if you are in one car
yes and relativity describes that as well
it is nonintuitive
A car can not go the speed of light.
Yes i was using his example
No matter can according to the theory.
but the fact we can't accelerate an electron to C no matter how much voltage we put across a parallel plate should be suspect enough that C is special
Velocity v examplw
So question i guess
It's a textbook example of classical mechanics utterly failing at relativistic speeds
It just proves that method has a limit.
yes... Which is what I mean by domain of applicability I mentioned earlier
we still use classical mechanics for nonrelativistic claculations
When you ignore two beams of light approaching each other. You prove this is not at all about science.
If we drove a car toward that electron why wouldnt the velocity appear to go faster than light
Both of us basically have the same question here with different set ups i think
Because a scientist will say use our formula and then judge the speed based on it. It is like the square root of zero.
@the21cat because no matter what we do, no matter where we do the experiment or how fast we are going, no matter how much voltage we apply across the parallel plates we NEVER get the electron going at C
if you found out a way to get an electron going faster than C please publish your work you will immediately get ~$100,000 and a nobel prize
Light approaches light at 2C. That is so obvious. To not believe that proves you know nothing at all about science and only religion sold as science.
read up on special relativity. Funky things happen from lights perspective. Time is funky at that speed
you don't get bigger than C in any reference frame however
But relative to our speed...... So if we approach at speed C wouldnt it relative to our speed be about 2C or greater than c atleast
No it would never be accepted. This is religion. They excommunicate anyone who questions it. They fire them in other words.
@the21cat no, the way the velocity transformations work is no matter how large your Velocity is nothing can appear faster than C
Like I said this is totally nonintuitive
Because we do not live in such conditions and don't have everyday experience with it
It is just a theory. Were it true you could measure the velocity of earth with C. Yet you can not unless the earth does not move.
but the fact we cannot get an electron to go C is suspect enough. This is an easy experiment, take out the cathode Ray tubes from your TV and try yourself
@Drewski4343 hey sry I stepped out
I tested this in a lab at college. I am not disputing it. What I am disputing is the velocity of the earth. Zero if this works.
it's not zero, it can be whatever less than C. Whatever it is we will never see anything faster than C
and when you say velocity of earth
It must be relative to something else
@raspberry buoyancy doesn't need entropy/thermodynamics. But it's underlying cause is thermodynamics. For example, it assumes fluids have pressure to hold themselves up...entropy describes where this pressure comes from
In a vacuum light should not know where it is. Thus the speed should be C. Period. Any difference would be the velocity of the earth. Yet this experiment says the earth is motionless. Yet they deny that. Houston we have a problem.