Message from @Steve Angell

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2019-07-16 00:05:30 UTC  

I knew one personally in America from Russia. I worked with him. He was not seeing the advantages of the USA other than the high pay for his profession as a Computer Programmer. There he trained to be a mountain tour guide. They paid for it all. He got to keep all the gear when he stopped doing that and they then trained him to be a Computer Programmer again for free.

2019-07-16 00:06:27 UTC  

He said Doctors got paid no more there than tour guides. However everyone had a place to live and plenty of food. No student debt.

2019-07-16 00:07:02 UTC  

so then why starvation in communist countries

2019-07-16 00:07:04 UTC  

Honestly pretty good. Better than here

2019-07-16 00:07:13 UTC  

well china is doing pretty good today with food

2019-07-16 00:07:16 UTC  

Sources?

2019-07-16 00:07:19 UTC  

but back in the 20th century

2019-07-16 00:07:23 UTC  

Because you believe Government propaganda.

2019-07-16 00:07:33 UTC  

so you are telling me

2019-07-16 00:07:41 UTC  

a communist country in the 20th century had food

2019-07-16 00:07:55 UTC  

The study was very recent. The one I knew was 25 years ago.

2019-07-16 00:08:16 UTC  

I would be ok with living in Russia. Not sure id like politics there at all though

2019-07-16 00:08:41 UTC  

i don't think you'd like the politics there

2019-07-16 00:09:40 UTC  

Yes I saw on RT and other foreign networks video of life in Venezuela. Now our sanctions are very hard on the people. But most people prefer that to having corporations coming in and lying to them. They claimed they would give the people 50% of the profits. But they then lied in the data provided. The people were getting not even 5% of profit.

2019-07-16 00:09:54 UTC  

Probably not

2019-07-16 00:10:14 UTC  

venezuela is one of the living definitions of a hellhole

2019-07-16 00:10:37 UTC  

The cities looked very high end. Lots of skyscrapers and such. Built before the crippling sanctions the USA imposed on them.

2019-07-16 00:11:17 UTC  

Six million people came to Venezuela from Cambodia when we were fighting against them. Three million have returned.

2019-07-16 00:11:22 UTC  

I think the usa also caused some of those tensions too

2019-07-16 00:11:52 UTC  

Those are the people "fleeing" from Venezuela. They are really just returning home.

2019-07-16 00:13:26 UTC  

You can believe the propaganda if you want. But this is simply not true. What is the advantage of having a corportation come in and steal all the oil money? How is that better than a "Dictator" enriching himself while also giving the people free education, free housing and free food.

2019-07-16 00:14:39 UTC  

There are some advantages to capitalism but most are outweighed by corporations

2019-07-16 00:15:17 UTC  

By the way he won many elections and Hugo Chavez allowed opposition. It is Maduro who is not allowing opposition parties because he is sure they are infiltrated by the CIA assets from the USA and other countries.

2019-07-16 00:15:53 UTC  

He is sure if they gain power the Corporations will again be able to steal 95% of the oil money.

2019-07-16 00:16:22 UTC  

Guido won nothing. He is just a complete sham and has perhaps 5% support if that.

2019-07-16 00:17:01 UTC  

He did win like a Congressman in America. A house seat from where he lives.

2019-07-16 00:19:56 UTC  

I wish we had Capitalism but we do not. We have ten Corporations with almost all companies on earth owned by them. That is not Capitalism. Capitalism would never allow Apple, Amazon, Facebook. Twitter and on and on. It would break up those companies to allow competition. Capitalism is competing for selling whatever you sale. We do not have that. All companies work with each other to set prices. No we have Corporatism. Just very small companies are allowed and even those are quickly being absorbed by Corporate Giants.

2019-07-16 00:21:28 UTC  

You have like two choices on buying a phone. Apple or Android. Two for buying a computer Windows or Apple. On and on. How many Restaurants in your city are privately owned with no connection to a Corporation?

2019-07-16 00:22:44 UTC  

My daughter works for a Heart Doctor company. But it is being absorbed by a Corporation. My son wanted to set up an Architectural firm. But found it impossible without having a Corporation rule over him.

2019-07-16 00:25:42 UTC  

That's a lot of text

2019-07-16 00:26:34 UTC  

Propaganda used a lot more to get them to believe all the lies taught to them at school, University and the Mainstream Media owned by a single Corporation in large part.

2019-07-16 02:14:43 UTC  

With the proper capital there wouldn't be anything stopping your son from opening his architectural firm.

2019-07-16 02:18:55 UTC  

Not to mention you claiming there are only 2 types of phones to buy. You ever heard of Huawei? Another phone developer just off the top of my head. It seems far more plausible to me that you surround yourself with like minded people and create an echochamber where you continue to brainwash yourself. There are obvious flaws with the public school systems, political and gender biases but they aren't there to prevent people from realizing the world is a disc.

2019-07-16 02:22:16 UTC  

Oh also Steve could you show me the paper trail that connects all of these corporations to eachother I'd love to believe you about the whole "corporatism not capitalism" but i'm going to need the names of those 10 corporations and the connections between them and seemingly every other corporation in america. Aside from the small ones.

2019-07-16 02:25:47 UTC  

Heavy on claims, light on evidence

2019-07-16 03:05:37 UTC  

😉

2019-07-16 05:21:08 UTC  

It really does have example evidence

2019-07-16 12:44:16 UTC  

i want someone to debate with about the earth being flat my opinion is that the earth is a globe dm me if you want to debate

2019-07-16 13:59:15 UTC  

hello flatties

2019-07-16 17:58:38 UTC  

hello flatties

2019-07-16 17:59:03 UTC  

(im a Globe earther)