Message from @P3TER_

Discord ID: 601790266541867010


2019-07-18 22:35:11 UTC  

Aight I came here for a debate thanks, itโ€™s round ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2019-07-18 22:35:29 UTC  

it's a joke on the semantics of calling earth round.

2019-07-18 22:36:21 UTC  

it's a globe, for sure.

2019-07-19 00:40:43 UTC  

why do so many discords have admins that let their personal biases interfere with their actual administration

2019-07-19 00:40:45 UTC  

it's awful

2019-07-19 00:49:14 UTC  

!mute @Euclid because f*&^ you, that's why

2019-07-19 00:49:14 UTC  

2019-07-19 00:49:29 UTC  

jk XD

2019-07-19 00:57:26 UTC  

based

2019-07-19 10:13:50 UTC  

How can the earth be flat if you can't look 100km to the opposite site of a sea?

2019-07-19 10:24:31 UTC  

exactly! it's a box!

2019-07-19 10:26:33 UTC  

2019-07-19 10:28:28 UTC  

A box has 6 sides. If you believe that the earth has a periphery of 40,000 km at the equator, each of the 4 sides that are inline, is 10,000 km long. So that doesn't make any sense.

2019-07-19 13:14:54 UTC  

if the earth is flat, and the sun is close to earth, it should be relatively easy to draw a triangle linking the sun, the east and west coast

2019-07-19 13:17:50 UTC  

So you mean that there wouldn't be (many) time zones most of the time? If that's what you mean, I agree.

2019-07-19 13:42:28 UTC  

i don't care about time zones, i care about triangles

2019-07-19 14:22:19 UTC  

I would very much like it if someone could explain how the sun could work on a flat earth

2019-07-19 14:54:25 UTC  

We can make proper triangles at a spheriod earth too, the only difference is the base line, which would go through the earth.

2019-07-19 14:57:33 UTC  

But the angles of those triangles would be quite differnet

2019-07-19 14:59:40 UTC  

No, the won't. Imagine a line on which you put a isosceles triangle (with the same angles at the bottom). Now imagine that the line curves, but the points of contact stay the same.

2019-07-19 15:01:56 UTC  

Wait, where are these points exactly? Because I was imagining two points on the surface of the Earth some finite distance apart, with the third point being the sun

2019-07-19 15:03:42 UTC  

That's right, I could explain it way better with a picture, but that isn't possible, right?

2019-07-19 15:13:09 UTC  

I understand what you're saying about the isosceles triangle, but there are a few problems. The most important of which is that the angle that you're measuring has to be with respect to the surface of the Earth on both models. On the flat model, the norm of the surface is always in one direction. In the globe model, the norm changes depending on where you are

2019-07-19 15:14:01 UTC  

I also wish I could use some pictures to explain, but I'm very new to discord, so I have no idea about any of that ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

2019-07-19 15:15:20 UTC  

In this case it's not Discord, I think we have to debate more to get the option to send pictures.

2019-07-19 15:19:04 UTC  

That's alright. We both understand that the earth is a sphere, so I trust us both to understand how triangles work

2019-07-19 15:19:41 UTC  

Definetely

2019-07-19 15:31:44 UTC  

i know we can make a triangle on a globe earth, it's how we first calculated the distance to the sun, but a near sun on a flat earth will not produce the same angles as a distant sun on a globe earth

2019-07-19 15:32:22 UTC  

since they are different triangles

2019-07-19 15:32:57 UTC  

That's for sure, but that has more to do with the position of the sun than the shape of the earth.

2019-07-19 15:35:16 UTC  

ok but one of the postulates of most FE is that the sun is very close

2019-07-19 15:35:30 UTC  

Yeah, I forgot about that

2019-07-19 15:36:29 UTC  

also, if the sun is very far away, why can we see it but we can only see a limited distance on a flat disc?

2019-07-19 15:37:30 UTC  

if the sun is actually very distant, is there still a dome? does that dome cover everything including the sun?

2019-07-19 15:37:47 UTC  

if not, what else is beyond the dome?

2019-07-19 15:38:07 UTC  

I don't know to whom you're asking this questions?

2019-07-19 15:38:18 UTC  

and if there is no dome but a distant sun, then are there also other planets? are they also flat?

2019-07-19 15:38:42 UTC  

i'm telling you why a close sun is actually very important to FE

2019-07-19 15:39:29 UTC  

Ah, allright

2019-07-19 15:40:48 UTC  

So they think that a sun, larger than the earth (although not as large as the sun is, according to NASA) , is inside a type of atmosphere?