Message from @Matthew Ramos
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just caught a bit of the convo, what exactly is everyone's position on religion and the issue of magic?
I'm fine with religion and magic
none of your business
@ivo I haven’t been insulted or struck by a mason
But I expose them
magic religion, all fine as long as it is not hurting others
Magick is for sodomites
@California Nightmare no need for it, you only give credence to them 😄
hold up
Ephesians 5:11-14 @ivo
**Ephesians 5:11-14 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<11> Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. <12> For it is shameful even to mention what such people do secretly; <13> but everything exposed by the light becomes visible, <14> for everything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says,"Sleeper, awake! Rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."```
Ayo holup, dey sayin sum sheeit
depends on who you ask....
some people might see Christianity as white magick
@ivo i saw you said that satan stands behind you, what exactly do you mean by that?
don't be a believer in r XD
@Seeker of Truth yeah, but the issue is that nobody has a concrete definition of the word 'magic', various sources define it differently
is being gay a sin or not
@Matthew Ramos no christ made that remark in the new testament regarding a stone or road block on his path to jeruzalem
Yes @renee
@ivo you mean where he says "get thee behind me satan"?
yes, especially when things which are not understood get labeled as magick
Wow that really sucks.
or something like that
why is it bad?
@Matthew Ramos yes
having Satan kiss your butt instead of kissing his?
XD
don't answer
Because it’s a abomination
A man can’t have a baby with another man
Nor can a woman have a baby with another woman
Sex is not for pleasure
It’s for reproduction
@ivo so what were you trying to say about that? just referencing the verse?
Makes sense
satan simply means adversary
@Seeker of Truth though its also a name
that is true Cali
should gay people do something about it? or are they doomed?