hm

not many visitors on this server?

500 or so online and over 3k members

of course there are @คᏁᎧᏬᏦᎥᏋ❧

though im not one

but NASA lies about the universe

idk about the original reason why they do, but if they were to come out today, there'd be lots of problems

millions out of the job

the exposing of a trillion dollar scam

much of science would be undermined

@คᏁᎧᏬᏦᎥᏋ❧ idk the original reason

but if they came out tomorrow a lot of problems would arise

for them at least

sure

for one, the celestial bodies are Local and not as big as nasa says

the sun isnt 93 million miles away and not as big as nasa says

okay, ill have to post one at a time

Clouds Behind Sun:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnOjYt2ba2U

Clouds Behind Moon:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SdojiTkJi_4

Local Sun and Horizon:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ynkAL5UUZU

Sprites and A Firmament:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vIPGvhQFHHA

Balloon Records Before Launch And Reaches Local Sun:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuj3cZTxJQ&t=1m40s

^1) Watch from 1:40 till take off, 2) Skip to 14:05 watch for about a minute as Balloon gets Closer To Sun, 3) Skip to 34:40 watch for a minute as the Sun got very close to the Balloon, 4) Skip to 50:05 and see how the Sun is Extremely Close To Balloon, 5) 1:06:07, 6) 1:18:18, 7) 1:33:20 Starting To Move Farther Away From Sun, 8) 1:44:10 Gradually Moving Farther, 9) 1:51:15 Even Farther and Finally 10) 2:02:35 where you can see Light and Darkness while the Sun is far away from the Balloon.

11) Now Nightfall 2:15:00
12) Moon Enters Frame Right Above Area Where Sunset Occurred @ 2:24:41, 2:25:03, 2:25:29, 2:25:59, 2:28:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ppPXChyTo

^video on Perspective and Sun rays

Stars are NOT what you think they are! Expectation vs. Reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmBh-WZzjIg

NASA Can't Go Beyond Low Earth Orbit | Flat Earth Firmament ▶️️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoiwjXepHM

Flat Earth | 100% Proof Space Travel is Fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9i97_K9Sx8

lots of proof i posted here

if you watch all those videos, i think at the very least you'll question the Heliocentric model

@ape well actually nasa doesnt show alot of this stuff

like stars for example

theyre not like the sun

theyre completely different

click that video i posted on the stars and youll see

pretty much all these videos are not commentary

theyre just video footage of nature

for what it truly is

@ape i could, and i have seen the stars, theyre pretty much like the vid i posted

get a p900 camera or telescope

and do some stargazing at night

youll see what theyre really like

or go on a balloon like many others have

100,000 ft in the air

youll see the sun and moon are much closer than nasa says

@ape well, you can go and research this stuff yourself

@ape its not a theory and not a waste of time

how much effort have you guys put into researching this?

where is the curvature?

a lot of video footage they share, like felix baumgartner etc. are all using fisheye lens

havent seen a curve

@Green Illusions lots have recorded from an altitude of 100,000 ft and there was no curve at all

@Green Illusions idk whats the exact shape / model of earth. im not assuming a shape, but from what ive learned over the past 3 and halfish years, what NASA tells us about the Universe is wrong, but not everything appears to be correct with the mainstream flat model (southern flights is an issue). but everyone needs to look into the matter and question everything.

i mean, one strange thing is the fact this is even an issue and why the governments of the world seems to get away with mass deception (not just on the Universe, but various other things), and that Antarctica is closed off for personal exploration (antarctic treaty)

@ape guided tour or did you get to freely explore?

well maybe not, but unless you explored the whole place, idk about that

agree @Becky K in Australia the masons are up there running things

hm

not sure how many on discord there are or how many are trolls

one guy on a server im on claims to be a 33rd degree and a cia agent. some of the guys on the server view him with distrust, but idk.

@AstralSentient well, thats pretty much all that im aware of

@Becky K in Australia idk, either hes unaware of what goes on at the top or hes lying.

@AstralSentient i know, but pretty much everything i listed ive seen proof for

well pope is def up there

but the Jesuit Commander is one guy who's above him

and lots of world leaders are figure heads for the actual guys in power behind the scenes

yeah the black pope

havent heard that term in years

id think theyre not the guys behind everything, theyre one chess piece.

the real guys are behind the scenes and out of public eye

ah yeah

lots of these buildings / stuff like obelisks are build using sacred geometry and/or on Leylines

was on another server, 2 guys and I were talking about a story about FBI spying on discord servers looking for far right wingers (or something like that) and then suddenly, 4 people join our VC and started talking about the fbi and how theyre agents etc. totally bizarre. either theyre trolls or possible legit...idk

Conspiracies (MKUltra), though trolls do post on there also

!rank

agreed @jeremy

the evidence needs to be examined and scrutinized

everyone

the entire population

if we have nasa employees telling us that they photoshop their images, thats strange enough.

then if we go 100,000ft above ground and see no curve

thats also a problem

theres lots. one thing is that with this trillion dollar scam, the public generally has a good perception of NASA (a government agency), and will generally believe all things they say / claim is 'scientific'.

as well as all forms of 'science' that support their heliocentric model

@Wardak fog and other objects

@jeremy i remember

https://archive.org/details/HOLOCAUSTHOAXExposed2013

evidence against holocaust^

@Human Sheeple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius

@b0GJ0tD21nCtERLa9B5p he wanted you to not interrupt him

@RidleyChozo and by lying about other stuff like cancer

frauds

@Citizen Z you studied philosophy?

your view of God (The First Cause) is very much like mine

thats necessary to be said

nothings a laughing matter

Dr.Daniel Neides Speaks Out Regarding Dangers Of Vaccines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z9QllzvR10

Vaccines ARE NOT Safe Documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZw_vXc4jws

Bill Gates: On 4 Occasions Mentions Reducing Population Using Vaccines/Health-Care/Reproductive-Services
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BobKXkrt8M

the pharmaceutical industry is way too rich for there to still be illnesses like cancer raging about

its a scam

@jeremy agree with your comment

diet and exercise are key to health

yet most neglect both

and go with the tasty (yet unhealthy) conveniences

sadly thats how they appear to view things @dustbreather keeping people sick and making them run in circles