Ah, so therefore, nothing truly exists

Atoms do not exist because you never experience them?

That's not at all what I'm arguing

Yes it is

Why are you trying to link the two?

Is not

you argued that "It's what I perceive, therefore it's true"

I would appreciate it if you stopped presuming things of me

I never said that

"I do not perceive or experience the curve, therefore the curve does not exist"

Stop

Now

Never said that

yes you did

Post it

Now

Or you're gone

we haven't even gotten there yet. we're just starting with what is observed, and you simply can't be intellectually honest and admit it's flat

"My exact experience tells me it's flat
My mind agrees with my senses"

I will not tolerate lies

you said it, not me

And you used the word perceived

so you're basing your reality only on what you can experience and perceive

Which I did not

by your own logic, things you do not experience, cannot exist.

You're basing your reality on something you cannot replicate and see for yourself

observably flat does not mean it's flat. it just means that's what we observe in our day-to-day. if you want to get to the meat of it that's ok but you're not accepting the basic premise that it looks flat yet you think it's a sphere

So who's reality is closer to actual reality?

Mine holds true to experience

Yours is a belief

That you have **NOT** experienced

Bravo with that logic

@RidleyChozo You are making an argument from ignorance, and completely basing your belief system on your perceptions.

no that's the start. it's not the basis of my knowledge. it's what I observe.

You say "observably flat does not mean flat", yet that's exactly what you're arguing.

no it's not

When did I say that?

I'm trying to get you to admit it's observably flat but you can't

Again you're putting words in my posts

I already did admit that

alright now we're getting somewhere