@rightthehand your difference in pressure idea doesn't explain why a balloon goes up

only gravity explains taht

Your belief in grabity doesn't explain why a balloon goes up

yep sure does

let's walk through it

with gravity, we'd get a pressure gradient

with a pressure gradient, you'd get a buoyant force

Ecclesiastes 3:18 - 22

**Ecclesiastes 3:18 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<18> I said in my heart with regard to human beings that God is testing them to show that they are but animals. ```

Hi

and if an object is less dense that the fluid, then the buoyant force exceeds the gravitational force

and it moves upwards

What do y'all think of quantum immortality

explains observations perfectly

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/chemistry/5-60-thermodynamics-kinetics-spring-2008/video-lectures/lecture-10-entropy-and-irreversibility/

Try learning something

@Citizen Z those examples don't factor in gravity, b/c at that scale it would confound the point

Great lecture if you're interested in learning

grabatitty

@Citizen Z oh i'd love to talk thermodynamics with you

Z Nation was a good show @Citizen Z

Underrated

lets start with this, do you know how many laws of thermo there are?

Not interested. Bored with the subject. But that lecture is good. Feel free to tell me where he is wrong

Oh he's right

all that is accurate

FOr what reason are you citing that

GRAVITY DROP SOMETHING FLIES UP: https://imgur.com/a/0gpjvOK

I hope your name is a z nation reference at least

Funny how a helium balloon in the free-fall plane doesn't go up, it stays in one spot

@Citizen Z Why do you trust he's right though, I mean MIT profressors also talk about gravity

Feel free to tell me where they are wrong about gravity

@MrGiggles There are 3 to my limited knowledge.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556291878903873538/592882291475349504/SPOILER_BardicMagic.webm

@GandalfTheGreen k

@GandalfTheGreen you seem reasonable

lemme ask you something

Do your own experiment. See if its right.

Ive worked with vacuum chambers for yearsm

@Citizen Z so why do you think its right? you cited it