All of the sort

refraction would be the only thing

and they do account for refraction :p

No they don’t.

i can't verify whether they did it accurately, but they do at least

They usually do basic math without accounting for refraction

I have no clue how you could figure out the exact distance from the center of the earth to get that formula to work with absolute perfection. Why you would care to do so. Wow I might be 0.001 inches off.

i'm just saying what they have done, idk what people usually do

No, you could be tens of feet off. You are doing simple math which isn’t account for the atmosphere

if the atmosphere can curve light around the earth in the globe model also

then it seems ok to say it makes the sun set on FE

Refraction is just a fancy word for mirage. They are more or less the same. Like a mirage refraction is far far less than perfect. You get a wavy image with refraction not a clear perfect image.

The atmosphere does tamper and bend light

the firmament

it does

but we're saying it bends light just so that it can curve around the earth

Not just wavy, there are reasons why scientists must take refraction into account

What is up in the firmament is what allows sunset and sundown. What it is like up there no one knows.

With your equation you are basically looking for curvature on a planet without an atmosphere

it's up for debate what the atmosphere does pretty much

No. I just understand what refraction and mirages are. If i see that well I understand my vision is obstructed.

the globe says it should curve down and FE says it should curve up

It isn’t really up for debate, there are countless research documents on refraction that all have metric data

If I see a lake in the desert I understand it is most likely just a mirage.

But I know you’ll say propaganda anyways

and steve has a point too that you can tell when things are refracted, it distorts the image

the magnetisphere basically EMPs anything passing through though so highly doubt much ever got past it from our planet

@raspberry just because you don’t know if it is happening doesn’t mean it isn’t

especially communications-wise

The atmosphere doesn’t care if you know if it works or not lol

we'd have to travel up there o:

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@thing my last point was that we could tell because different wavelengths are refracted differently

Jesus was brown

one of the laser tests did account for this

A perfectly calm lake can mirror a mountain behind it. Reflection is what that is.

``"his skin was like bronze and his feet were like brass"``

It’s isn’t that simple, once again 2D thinking

It mostly could not work on a curved earth. You would see the curve.

Perhaps on a small lake it could.

Mostly lol