Message from @P3TER_

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2019-08-02 18:17:19 UTC  

And yeah, I know GE is supported by more than gravity but for a FE to completely clear the most fundamental issue in physics is definetly a point in it's direction, which I'm focusing on as of now.

2019-08-02 18:17:32 UTC  

@Akhanyatin yes, of course there is no universal model

2019-08-02 18:18:02 UTC  

FES is usually considered control opposite, some people believe in an aether, so obviously a consensus is not available

2019-08-02 18:18:53 UTC  

Have you looked into how well a spinning sphere predicts all the data we have?

2019-08-02 18:19:18 UTC  

Latitude dependent weight predicted by a simple equation

2019-08-02 18:19:28 UTC  

Velocity dependant weight predicted by a simple equation

2019-08-02 18:19:37 UTC  

(Eotvos effect)

2019-08-02 18:19:41 UTC  

well that's the thing, GE can explain all these things with one model. The thing is, we live on one earth, not many earths, so you can't have 2 models that, when combined, explain less or the same amount phenomena than a single and expect the combination to be better than the single one

2019-08-02 18:20:46 UTC  

Horizon curve depending on elevation, horizon drop depending on elevation, moon position and rotation depending on latitude..etc..etc.

2019-08-02 18:20:51 UTC  

The list goes on

2019-08-02 18:22:19 UTC  

FE models always seem to explain phenomena as if it were in a vacuum. They don’t see the need to be consistent with the physics they come up with.

2019-08-02 18:22:45 UTC  

you sound like you have scientific potential, the problem is you're assuming a base that's absolutely wrong and building on top of it.
you can debunk gravity all you want, you'll never be published if you're saying that the replacement is the earth accelerating at 9.8m/s/s

2019-08-02 18:23:27 UTC  

And all the different combinations of advanced physics concepts, I have very little doubt that putting it all together will make something vital explode.

2019-08-02 18:33:04 UTC  

@Akhanyatin except it uses a concept that contradicts basically every other field of physics

2019-08-02 18:33:13 UTC  

"Scientific potential" lmao

2019-08-02 18:41:07 UTC  

so light travelling random distances is fine with every other field of physics?
distances being completely is fine with every other field of physics?
the sun and moon being local is completely fine with every other field of physics?
if classical physics were based on things that don't work, no buildings bigger than a few meters cubbed would be standing, airplanes would not be flying, meteorological predictions would have 0% accuracy.
if classical physics were actually obsolete, we'd either have a unifying theory or we'd completely remove them.

2019-08-02 18:44:36 UTC  

well yeah, you don't even have your bachelor's yet. you are not published, and you assume things that are completely wrong. but, even though you seem to *know* a lot of things, you are far from a genius, since you have yet to prove that you understand them and you also your model is based on one of the most heavily debunked models yet.

2019-08-02 18:46:12 UTC  

and none of this is meant to attack you, i'm just pointing out facts. you can either be insulted by them or you can take a moment and think about them.

2019-08-02 19:42:09 UTC  

The earth is round

2019-08-02 19:56:55 UTC  

@rivenator12113 Why don’t you explain to me how a rocket needs air for thrust?

2019-08-02 20:30:41 UTC  

Rocket engines need oxygen to burn fuel. And because an engine needs so much oxygen that the surrounding air can't deliver that, they inject oxygen (stored as liquid) next to the engines.

2019-08-02 21:27:37 UTC  

How would it thrust without air? You just proved that the rocket engines need oxygen to burn fuel not how it would thrust in a vacuum.

2019-08-02 21:28:30 UTC  

newtons third law

2019-08-02 21:29:45 UTC  

@rivenator12113 It essentially works by pushing tons and tons of gas in one direction and flying in the other

2019-08-02 21:30:05 UTC  

The molecules basically bounce of the craft before they leave imparting momentum to it

2019-08-02 21:30:21 UTC  

Newton said it himself

2019-08-02 21:33:31 UTC  

You forget that the gas would diffuse all over space, it wouldn't stay in a place where the rocket would be able to push off it.

2019-08-02 21:33:58 UTC  

It would thrust but only momentarily

2019-08-02 21:34:16 UTC  

but it would be jettisoned in a specific direction when leaving the rocket

2019-08-02 21:34:35 UTC  

oh wait i might have read the statement wrong

2019-08-02 21:34:56 UTC  

Yeah I would say diffuse is the wrong word here

2019-08-02 21:35:10 UTC  

It's a much more violent process of tons and tons of gas getting blasted out

2019-08-02 21:35:29 UTC  

The pressure differential is super large and the gas is travelling really fast

2019-08-02 21:36:28 UTC  

And you don't need gas outside to push off of

2019-08-02 21:36:44 UTC  

You are getting pushed away as the gas gets blasted out

2019-08-02 21:57:20 UTC  

@Albert Einstein why won't you align your name with your pfp lol

2019-08-02 23:58:16 UTC  

@NickC64 What's that?

2019-08-03 00:57:21 UTC  

Ask away

2019-08-03 00:57:32 UTC  

so if the earth is flat in your model how would it angle?

2019-08-03 00:57:43 UTC  

if its flat like a disk

2019-08-03 00:57:44 UTC  

What do you mean?