Message from @rivenator12113
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Is there a south star? Nope
Only a north star
It is like using the big dipper to find north when polaris is covered by a cloud
Is there a central point around which all southern stars rotate? The answer is YES.
Polaris was the pole star starting at about 300 AD
Prior was Kochab
@rivenator12113 If Polaris suddenly disappeared, but all stars and patterns remained the same, would it be impossible to navigate north?
*all "other" stars and patterns (I meant to say)
Yes, historical evidence shows that stars have moved, when comparing the earliest meticulous star charts
@rivenator12113 You can't see orion in your sky right now, but you could months ago. What does that tell you?
@zirpu You can see the polaris star everyday, what does that tell you?
That it is the star nearest to earths celestial pole
Polaris isnt even on the direct celestial pole
Earth rotates around the sun, what does that tell you?
The sky rotates equatorially. I think you need to research that a bit.
Sun moves in a direction what does that tell you?
Nothing in the sky contradicts with the heliocentric model. You aren't making sense.
So why can't you see orion anymore if we are on a flat earth?
Yes it does contradicts the heliocentric model, the earth rotating around the sun which moves in a direction can not work with polaris. Only way polaris can remain in the same spot for millenials is because earth is stationery
I don't really think it's worth your time to argue against the heliocentric model if you don't understand how it works.
What did I say wrong about the heliocentric model? Everything that I wrote is factual
"Only way polaris can remain in the same spot for millenials is because earth is stationery" This is false, it could also be because the star is far away.
Why do I always get the same NPC response, you globe earthers keep forgetting that earth is rotating on its own axis around the sun which moves in a straight path, we should never see the polaris star everyday within those conditions
Stars actual movement based on our movement through the galaxy is negligable because of the scale. Only star movement we see without careful observation is from earths rotation.
Because of the scale
Do you keep forgetting about your heliocentric model?
The farther something is the less you can see its movement in relation to yourself.
earth is rotating on its own axis around the sun which moves in a straight path, we should never see the polaris star everyday within those conditions
And its axis, tilt, points at polaris.
That would work on a geocentric flat earth not on a heliocentric globe earth
Go research it and come back
I can't research it for you
while its moving around the sun? The sun which also moves in a path?
Scale
You are forgetting the scale we are looking at
Stars are so far the only movement weve noticed in them is the stars that are closest like Barnards star. And its movement is tiny over years and years.
And? You have an object moving on it axis which moves around the another object. How would it see the same object everyday? The fact that it's so far away and stationery just reinforces flat earth geocentrism
Do I have to draw it for you or can you research it yourself?
Even if you can't understand this thing there are many simpler things we can discuss that debunk your theory.