Hello

I want to get unbanned

From the flat earth discord. I am a globe defender looking to discuss the shape of the earth.

The 24/7 YouTube stream of the discord...I was there and they said I could come here to potentially get unbanned.

Who do I talk to?

So what can we do in this chat? Can I debate flat earthers here?

Let me give a little background....

About 2017, I discovered there was a flat earth movement on the internet. I was told to research flat earth, so I did. But I have yet to find any compelling evidence to overturn the globe model.

@Harrison If so, it is an incredible simulation of a globe. Very globe like simulation!

@NickC64 Ok, will do.

Hello

I was told I could debate/discuss the shape of the earth in here.

@NickC64 Civil debate seems pretty dead, nobody in there

Any flat earth proponents in here?

There are many pieces of evidence supporting a globe. A good place to start is our spherical system of latitude and longitude and how well it works for navigating anywhere in the known world.

The angle to Polaris changes at 1 degree per 69 miles as you go north or south in latitude.

This is consistent with a ball that is 24,900 miles in circumference.

@rivenator12113 You don't see all the stars every day on a globe. You only see the stars in your hemisphere, or a mixture thereof on or near the equator

@rivenator12113 And yes, without taking other factors into account, you can make a geocentric globe model work with the celestial rotation. But only a geocentric globe. Not a flat earth. The southern star pole is the problem for flat earthers to explain.

@rivenator12113 What latitude do you live at?

Me too. Midwest. I'm guessing you can't see the Southern Cross, just like I can't

People in Australia see completely different stars rotating around a star pole that is not polaris

@Superiorna_Artiljerija Doesn't matter if a star is in the celestial pole

The point is that stars rotate around a central point

@rivenator12113 Are you flat out denying that people in the southern hemisphere see a different set of stars rotating around a different center point?

Polaris actually rotates a tiny bit too

It is not dead center

People polar align their southern hemisphere telescopes all the time. It is trickier,but it works just the same as in the north.

Sailors use the southern cross as well

It is one of the key constellations for orienting one's self in the southern latitudes

It is like using the big dipper to find north when polaris is covered by a cloud

Is there a central point around which all southern stars rotate? The answer is YES.

@rivenator12113 If Polaris suddenly disappeared, but all stars and patterns remained the same, would it be impossible to navigate north?

*all "other" stars and patterns (I meant to say)

Yes, historical evidence shows that stars have moved, when comparing the earliest meticulous star charts

This discord is a joke

The 24/7 one

Hello all

I was banned from the Discord. People don't like to hear the truth

There is an Ice Wall voice chat?

Can I listen in?

Listen in first?

How do I do that? I am a newb

I don't understand Discord. I must be too old and out of touch

Anyone else get booted out of the 24/7 discord?

Anyone else get kicked out of the 24/7 Flat Earth room?

Because we only feel a change in acceleration, not a constant speed. On a calm day when a plane is at steady speed and altitude, you don't feel like you are moving.

Has anyone ever been allowed back into 24/7 Flat earth discord?

@SiliconBassist How recent?

Is there a link back to that server?

Who is your favorite bassist?

Fair enough...great bassists the both of them! But so many others