Message from @pphands

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2019-09-23 18:56:33 UTC  

lmao

2019-09-23 18:56:39 UTC  

damn it

2019-09-23 18:56:55 UTC  

2019-09-23 19:03:00 UTC  

Naughty boy

2019-09-23 19:37:09 UTC  

has anyone else noticed that when they introduced vaccines, the rates of autism have also gone up as well?

2019-09-23 19:39:19 UTC  

Yea

2019-09-23 19:39:35 UTC  

Have you ever noticed that as ice cream sales go up so do shark attacks

2019-09-23 19:39:50 UTC  

why are you trolling?

2019-09-23 19:40:13 UTC  

Its simple statistics

2019-09-23 19:40:38 UTC  

Also the best example that corraltion doesnt necessary mean causation

2019-09-23 19:41:32 UTC  

I believe the argument for this was that, at the time, autism had a rather loose diagnosis. The rates weren't going up as much as people were actually being properly diagnosed with the disorder.

2019-09-23 19:41:49 UTC  

idk from what ive seen, vaccines don't seem to do much, diseases were already on the decline when they introduced them, and now all of a sudden rates of autism are so much higher

2019-09-23 19:42:03 UTC  

i see

2019-09-23 19:45:09 UTC  

maybe people started believing in fe at the same time vaccines came out

2019-09-23 19:48:23 UTC  

I don't necessarily believe FE, I just think it's closer to my personal observations, the only problem I see with it is that I can't figure out how the sun and moon work on FE, which is why I'm on the fence

2019-09-23 19:50:41 UTC  

@Seeker of Truth showed a pretty convincing graph related to vaccines, maybe he can explain it better than me

2019-09-23 19:55:36 UTC  

@WonTon graph or evidence? just cause there are pretty lines with colors and numbers means it's right

2019-09-23 19:58:13 UTC  

seems pretty clear to me

2019-09-23 19:58:42 UTC  

no source.

2019-09-23 19:58:49 UTC  

i agree with it

2019-09-23 19:58:53 UTC  

but there is no source

2019-09-23 19:59:49 UTC  

Seeker posted it in <#484514023698726912> earlier today, I thought it was interesting, not sure where it's from though

2019-09-23 19:59:50 UTC  

Those are deaths rates and not contraction rates

2019-09-23 20:00:24 UTC  

Vaccines don't eradicate. They protect us from them.

2019-09-23 20:05:08 UTC  

Like Sam said, those are death rates and that's an important distinction.

2019-09-23 20:07:15 UTC  

To put it in another perspective, more people are surviving cancer now than we did 100 years ago, that does not me we don’t need to look into cures or better ways to fight it.

2019-09-23 20:08:11 UTC  

@WonTon Those stats are deceiving, do you have a statistic for vaccines population rate timeline? I'm pretty sure back in the 1950s people weren't widely vaccinated. Rather it was due to society getting cleaner as a whole and progressing with better medical accessibility.

2019-09-23 20:09:57 UTC  

sure but it just seems to me that the death rates were already on the decline to the point of almost being gone, so people saw this opportunity to introduce vaccines saying that it will achieve what was already being achieved anyways

2019-09-23 20:09:57 UTC  

https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination I was right, in the 1980 vaccination rate was only 20% it must've been way lower in 1950s so why would you attribute the eradication of these viruses to vaccination?

2019-09-23 20:10:18 UTC  

so my point is that vaccines didn't contribute to anything

2019-09-23 20:10:25 UTC  

so why introduce them if not for nefarious purposes

2019-09-23 20:13:16 UTC  

When you see the anti vaxx kid using an aging app, *insert looking away meme template*

2019-09-23 20:15:09 UTC  

But then how do you explain the fact that ever since vacations have gone on decline there have been more disease outbreaks

2019-09-23 20:15:14 UTC  

And the comeback of polio

2019-09-23 20:16:20 UTC  

Why don’t you compare death rates in the US and Canada to countries without access to vaccinations?

2019-09-23 20:17:49 UTC  

if

2019-09-23 20:19:10 UTC  
2019-09-23 20:19:18 UTC  

the problem is if you have a poor country with unsanitary conditions, you're bound to have diseases

2019-09-23 20:19:27 UTC  

it has nothing to do with having vaccines or not