Message from @pphands
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lmao
damn it
Naughty boy
has anyone else noticed that when they introduced vaccines, the rates of autism have also gone up as well?
Yea
Have you ever noticed that as ice cream sales go up so do shark attacks
why are you trolling?
Its simple statistics
Also the best example that corraltion doesnt necessary mean causation
I believe the argument for this was that, at the time, autism had a rather loose diagnosis. The rates weren't going up as much as people were actually being properly diagnosed with the disorder.
idk from what ive seen, vaccines don't seem to do much, diseases were already on the decline when they introduced them, and now all of a sudden rates of autism are so much higher
i see
maybe people started believing in fe at the same time vaccines came out
I don't necessarily believe FE, I just think it's closer to my personal observations, the only problem I see with it is that I can't figure out how the sun and moon work on FE, which is why I'm on the fence
@Seeker of Truth showed a pretty convincing graph related to vaccines, maybe he can explain it better than me
@WonTon graph or evidence? just cause there are pretty lines with colors and numbers means it's right
seems pretty clear to me
i agree with it
but there is no source
Seeker posted it in <#484514023698726912> earlier today, I thought it was interesting, not sure where it's from though
Those are deaths rates and not contraction rates
Vaccines don't eradicate. They protect us from them.
Like Sam said, those are death rates and that's an important distinction.
To put it in another perspective, more people are surviving cancer now than we did 100 years ago, that does not me we don’t need to look into cures or better ways to fight it.
@WonTon Those stats are deceiving, do you have a statistic for vaccines population rate timeline? I'm pretty sure back in the 1950s people weren't widely vaccinated. Rather it was due to society getting cleaner as a whole and progressing with better medical accessibility.
sure but it just seems to me that the death rates were already on the decline to the point of almost being gone, so people saw this opportunity to introduce vaccines saying that it will achieve what was already being achieved anyways
https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination I was right, in the 1980 vaccination rate was only 20% it must've been way lower in 1950s so why would you attribute the eradication of these viruses to vaccination?
so my point is that vaccines didn't contribute to anything
so why introduce them if not for nefarious purposes
When you see the anti vaxx kid using an aging app, *insert looking away meme template*
But then how do you explain the fact that ever since vacations have gone on decline there have been more disease outbreaks
And the comeback of polio
Why don’t you compare death rates in the US and Canada to countries without access to vaccinations?
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@pphands here
the problem is if you have a poor country with unsanitary conditions, you're bound to have diseases
it has nothing to do with having vaccines or not