I've got plenty of other points I can bring up especially with my naval experience relating to the curvature

Well you are free to believe that

Im not stopping you

I find flat earth to have such little explanatory power. For the vast majority of topics that can be discussed, flat earth has not provided an explanation for. For the explanations flat earth has provided, I find them to be invalid

Hence my position

hello

> The sun is much closer. Therefore its light doesnt travel across the entire flat plane at the same time
But it does travel across the entire flat plane. There's no reason why it would travel a certain distance and stop with no obstacles in its way. Given the sun is a sphere, light would radiate in all directions and touch every part of the flat surface. The first few diagrams you showed are not consistent with the gif of the glass paperweight thing. For one, in the gif you're basically assuming that the sun is outside the dome/firmament, which contradicts your pictures. You also have no observation of the dome or the refractive properties within it. Is it solid glass? Obviously it can't be, so is it a glass shell? How do you know?

> Ever heard of olbers Paradox?
Olber's paradox only refers to the question of why the sky is not bright at night from starlight given a set of assumptions. Many of the explanations say the assumptions are incorrect, unless the cosmos had fractal lighting patterns, which current evidence doesn't support.

Light can dissipate in the atmosphere, but a) that's not what the Olber's paradox relates to and b) you need to show that light dissipates at a rate and distance to match however far away you think the sun is, which doesn't appear to be decided on by Flat Earthers.

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I don't see how this is out of line. I'm just responding to what you said, there's no formal debate format.

What kinds of conversation are supposed to go here?

Yeah and I still haven't gotten an answer as to why the sun illuminates half the world perfectly
Half the world (roughly) experiences day while the other experiences night- not counting midnight sun (another phenomenon unexplained by FE)

It is half, yes (excluding things like surface variations, waves, etc.). Idk why that's disputed

He insisted it's not half when that is an indisputable fact

Mindboggling

Actually never seen a flat earther claim otherwise before @Citizen Z

@BubbleBurster so its exactly half?

Yeah it is half

"Half the world (roughly)"

Roughly

Yes

Thats what i said

Its more like 52%

So a bit more

@Citizen Z the gif is too small for me to view properly and I don't understand how the Alaska video relates at all. Also, the whole optics and angular resolution thing makes no sense. What makes "things disappear bottom up" legit? What's special about the bottom of the ship?

Angle of light

Where does the extra 2% come from?

I don't have the patience to tutor you

This is an "informing" channel, is it not?

Oh I'm dumb, I was treating the sun as a point light. Makes a lot of sense actually for it to be slightly over 50%

~~If you're not patient enough to explain your position, I could use some easy diagrams or something about the angle of resolution if you have them on hand~~ found the stuff you posted in optics so I'll be looking at that

@BubbleBurster yeah keep in mind the sun is not a point light, so the coverage would be slightly higher because you're getting light from one side of the sun sphere and also from the other side
Same reasoning as to why you wouldn't need to be infinitely far away from the earth to see 50% of it, because you have two eyes

@Citizen Z You said the sunlight cannot cover the entire Earth since it is so close

Now you say it is 52%

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tbf 52% =/= 100%

@Jatsko Thanks, that makes sense

I might be slightly wrong again, I think the sun might mathematically need to have a larger radius than the earth to cover more than 50%, not simply that it has size to begin with

```HYMN TO "R"
Our Eratosthenes whose sticks measured the heavens,
Hallowed be thy name,
Thy circumference come,
Thy radius be done,
On Earth as it measures in the heavens,
Give us this day our daily shadows,
And forgive us for assuming the distance to the sun,
To give us the globe.
R-men```

^where did this come from?