Message from @Yabai

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2019-09-16 22:29:38 UTC  

The sun on the flat Earth model also does impossible things. On a flat plane, as the sun gets further away, it would not go below the horizon if it was all flat. It would fade into the distance slowly.

2019-09-16 22:30:36 UTC  

it's actually hilarious how you repeat the same exact things over and over again thinking you've won

2019-09-16 22:30:55 UTC  

you have yet to say one logical thing

2019-09-16 22:30:56 UTC  

Its impossible on a flat surface for an object above that surface to visibly go below it.

2019-09-16 22:31:12 UTC  

Simply from moving further away, ofc

2019-09-16 22:32:13 UTC  

Boats also disappear over the horizon bottom up, interestingly. Just like with the sun, they should not have a preferred direction of fading into the distance.

2019-09-16 22:32:33 UTC  

@Yabai funny how you ignore refraction when it benefits you

2019-09-16 22:33:18 UTC  

what are you talking about

2019-09-16 22:33:20 UTC  

Atmospheric refraction already allows for us to see the boat further away than we normally would. Atmospheric refraction doesn't cause boats to disappear bottom up, as far as I'm concerned.

2019-09-16 22:34:19 UTC  

@rivenator12113 funny how you attribute random things to refraction when it suits you

2019-09-16 22:34:25 UTC  

atmospheric refraction creates an illusion of boats going from top to down

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/623285593786286103/maxresdefault_1.jpg

2019-09-16 22:34:46 UTC  

Top to down?

2019-09-16 22:34:49 UTC  

notice how the image in your diagram is INVERTED

2019-09-16 22:35:16 UTC  

never seen a boat randomly flip lol

2019-09-16 22:35:43 UTC  

ignorance is bliss, keep ignoring the phenomenas when it suits you! Also isn't the earth to small to see curvature? so how could you see the boat disappear top from bottom? logical fallacies everywhere

2019-09-16 22:36:27 UTC  

bru

2019-09-16 22:36:54 UTC  

Knowledge is the only good in ignorance is the only evil

2019-09-16 22:36:56 UTC  

Anyway. Good luck to you with your search for proof. Globe earthers can sometimes be as dumb as flat earthers and will spout nonsense, though, but I hope this conversation helped you learn something new. @Teddy

2019-09-16 22:36:59 UTC  

What is the flat earth explanation to gravity

2019-09-16 22:37:06 UTC  

There is none

2019-09-16 22:37:09 UTC  

They deny it.

2019-09-16 22:37:25 UTC  

Me jumps for joy and doesn't stop floating up

2019-09-16 22:37:47 UTC  

They claim density and buoyancy are forces independent of gravity - however they are not.

2019-09-16 22:38:25 UTC  

👌

2019-09-16 22:38:30 UTC  

Lorie r u a flat earther?

2019-09-16 22:38:31 UTC  

@Teddy what about be

2019-09-16 22:39:43 UTC  

@rivenator12113 you're right, ignorance is bliss, keep on cherry picking wtv supports your little safe space theory and ignore literally what you see with your own eyes lol

2019-09-16 22:39:45 UTC  

I know what you mean, Lorie.

2019-09-16 22:39:49 UTC  

I agree

2019-09-16 22:40:38 UTC  

Evidence is the basis for all intellectual discourse otherwise you will end up no where

2019-09-16 22:40:49 UTC  

true

2019-09-16 22:41:47 UTC  

That's why I joined this I want to get explanations from flat earthers for phenomenon such as gravity

2019-09-16 22:42:06 UTC  

nice

2019-09-16 22:42:10 UTC  

I have a question for you. What do you believe is a replacement for gravity? Is it density/buoyancy? @rivenator12113

2019-09-16 22:42:44 UTC  

@Teddy on a FE, seasons are due to thw fact that the sun moves between the tropics. Which is wrong because that would mean that
1) capricorn is bigger than cancer
2) the sun needs to travel a larger distance in winter while keeping the 24 hour day
3) is able to illumine the entire circumference of the earth (Antarctica) 24/7 during the southern summer

2019-09-16 22:42:45 UTC  

U can't have density without gravity same with buoyancy

2019-09-16 22:43:09 UTC  

I've seen two explanations for FE gravity: 1) Density / Buoyancy and 2) Universal Acceleration.

2019-09-16 22:43:37 UTC  

UA is much harder to disprove.

2019-09-16 22:44:28 UTC  

Density is as I understand it is the gravitational pull of any singular atom relative to any other atom based on a numerical scale

2019-09-16 22:45:19 UTC  

With out gravity you can't have density and without density you can't have buoyancy

2019-09-16 22:45:42 UTC  

you're right, buoyancy requires an acclerative "force".