Message from @Yabai
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I agree
Evidence is the basis for all intellectual discourse otherwise you will end up no where
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That's why I joined this I want to get explanations from flat earthers for phenomenon such as gravity
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I have a question for you. What do you believe is a replacement for gravity? Is it density/buoyancy? @rivenator12113
@Teddy on a FE, seasons are due to thw fact that the sun moves between the tropics. Which is wrong because that would mean that
1) capricorn is bigger than cancer
2) the sun needs to travel a larger distance in winter while keeping the 24 hour day
3) is able to illumine the entire circumference of the earth (Antarctica) 24/7 during the southern summer
U can't have density without gravity same with buoyancy
I've seen two explanations for FE gravity: 1) Density / Buoyancy and 2) Universal Acceleration.
UA is much harder to disprove.
Density is as I understand it is the gravitational pull of any singular atom relative to any other atom based on a numerical scale
With out gravity you can't have density and without density you can't have buoyancy
you're right, buoyancy requires an acclerative "force".
Eg gravity
yup. or centrifugal even.
Yes
It's why scientists spin samples in centrifuges to separate them.
@Deleted User nice name btw
But centrifugal force cannot be applied to that of say a cargo ship or oiltanker as the amount of energy needed to create such momentum to created a buoyant effect would grow at an exponential r8
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4 me most of science is connecting the dots between key subjects I have knowledge on that's the beauty of it its like a giant web u can trace everything back to basics and vice versa
same
The other explanation, Universal Acceleration, is the idea that the earth is travelling upwards at a rate of 9.81 m/s2 to simulate gravity.
That's a cool way to think about it
That is a belief stated by the FE society
UA?
Elaborate on upwards
Flat earthers disassociste themselves from it
Call it 'government controlled opposition'
as in, physically upwards. A force is pushing the earth skywards.
at a constant rate of 9.81 m/s2
Personally, I think the flat Earth society was one of the earlier incarnations of flat Earth ideas, before they realized that they can't explain away gravity and a few other things blocking their way at the time.
tbf, it's actually a better explanation than density/buoyancy.
I agree
what led to the FES being ostracized?
When FE society was thoroughly debunked flat earthers decided to switch to more ambiguous and contrived ideas and completely disassocisted themselves from math as well as science as normally understood
No clue
When I get unmuted on another server that's another question I have waiting
Unless we are orbiting a central object hence gravity. there is an external force with such power to move not only earth but the surrounding universe at a constant r8 which could be theoretically possible however the chances r infantecimal compared to globe theory
They claimed "dark energy", which is actually what mainstream science does to fit GR into macro scales.