Message from @Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art

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2020-11-09 05:08:51 UTC  

Observation of human behavior is objective, but the method of interpretation of observation of nature and how nature functions and what drives it is subjective. It is a subjective logic.

2020-11-09 05:11:01 UTC  

Logic is not subjective.
There is no "my logic" or "your logic" there is only logic

2020-11-09 05:12:51 UTC  

There is such a thing as 'my logic' and 'your logic'. This is subjective logic. There is also an objective logic that is universal in truth, based on science.

2020-11-09 05:15:36 UTC  

(and mathematics)

2020-11-09 05:19:34 UTC  

Obviously i am referring to objective logic if im making an objective claim

2020-11-09 05:19:44 UTC  

Of course.

2020-11-09 05:24:37 UTC  

Then why evade my point?

2020-11-09 05:29:07 UTC  

I'm saying that moral law is subjective because it ties into the idea that there is a God. It ties into the idea that moral law is ingrained into humans, which I disagree with. That is not objective. I'm not trying to evade your point.

2020-11-09 05:31:17 UTC  

Then think of it as universal law. It still applies and is observable. It is ingrained in people because we have the mental power to comprehend it. It is objective. There is law to the universe.

2020-11-09 05:33:32 UTC  

It is a *perceived* law of the universe. It is not inherently objective because people believe it is a universal law.

2020-11-09 05:37:48 UTC  

It can be proven to be objective. Which is why i mentioned deontological ethics

2020-11-09 05:40:29 UTC  

How can it be proven, in a logical fashion that follows science or mathematics, that it is objective?

2020-11-09 05:46:26 UTC  

Yes. That what i was saying

2020-11-09 05:46:49 UTC  

I gtg. I have to get up early. Ill talk to you later.

2020-11-09 05:48:38 UTC  

Adios

2020-11-09 06:14:43 UTC  

> But morality is a social construct.
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art is it? Is it really?

2020-11-09 06:16:14 UTC  

> Aka karma
@GussTR karma is actually not a correct theory

2020-11-09 06:18:51 UTC  

I do believe that morality is a socially influenced thing that is created by humanity.

2020-11-09 06:45:56 UTC  

Why do you think that is? Under what conditions do you think it would be acceptable to sleep with animals for example.

2020-11-09 06:46:13 UTC  

Or having more than one wife

2020-11-09 06:47:34 UTC  

Those are societal norms and morals. Whether they are frowned upon is based on what culture you were born in, and you are likely to believe what society indoctrinates you with.

2020-11-09 06:47:34 UTC  

GG @Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-11-09 06:47:44 UTC  

Bruh

2020-11-09 06:47:48 UTC  

Brah

2020-11-09 06:48:02 UTC  

No human would find any of what I said acceptable

2020-11-09 06:48:14 UTC  

Under any condition

2020-11-09 06:48:17 UTC  

No human would?

2020-11-09 06:48:39 UTC  

Yeah, no human

2020-11-09 06:48:48 UTC  

That doesn't mean people won't do it

2020-11-09 06:48:53 UTC  

But it would be punished

2020-11-09 06:49:00 UTC  

Polygamy isn't acceptable?

2020-11-09 06:49:10 UTC  

It's not m8

2020-11-09 06:49:25 UTC  

Not where you are born. In other places it's possible.

2020-11-09 06:50:31 UTC  

Dosent make it right does it?

2020-11-09 06:51:17 UTC  

Whether it is right is based on what culture you grew up in. 'Right' and 'Wrong' are socially implicated and implemented.

2020-11-09 06:51:51 UTC  

What is right is a facet of what you and your contemporaries believe is right.

2020-11-09 06:52:12 UTC  

That's only true for certain things

2020-11-09 06:52:14 UTC  

Some people say that homosexuality or sodomy is immoral and wrong, and other's don't.

2020-11-09 06:52:26 UTC  

It's true for all things we find acceptable.

2020-11-09 06:52:49 UTC  

Possibly

2020-11-09 06:53:06 UTC  

Possibly isn't a decisive answer.