Message from @justkaus
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That is a subjective observance.
How is it subjective? Observation of nature is not subjective.
Observation of human behavior is objective, but the method of interpretation of observation of nature and how nature functions and what drives it is subjective. It is a subjective logic.
Logic is not subjective.
There is no "my logic" or "your logic" there is only logic
There is such a thing as 'my logic' and 'your logic'. This is subjective logic. There is also an objective logic that is universal in truth, based on science.
(and mathematics)
Obviously i am referring to objective logic if im making an objective claim
Of course.
Then why evade my point?
I'm saying that moral law is subjective because it ties into the idea that there is a God. It ties into the idea that moral law is ingrained into humans, which I disagree with. That is not objective. I'm not trying to evade your point.
Then think of it as universal law. It still applies and is observable. It is ingrained in people because we have the mental power to comprehend it. It is objective. There is law to the universe.
It is a *perceived* law of the universe. It is not inherently objective because people believe it is a universal law.
It can be proven to be objective. Which is why i mentioned deontological ethics
How can it be proven, in a logical fashion that follows science or mathematics, that it is objective?
Yes. That what i was saying
I gtg. I have to get up early. Ill talk to you later.
Adios
> But morality is a social construct.
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art is it? Is it really?
I do believe that morality is a socially influenced thing that is created by humanity.
Why do you think that is? Under what conditions do you think it would be acceptable to sleep with animals for example.
Or having more than one wife
Those are societal norms and morals. Whether they are frowned upon is based on what culture you were born in, and you are likely to believe what society indoctrinates you with.
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No human would find any of what I said acceptable
Under any condition
No human would?
Yeah, no human
That doesn't mean people won't do it
But it would be punished
Polygamy isn't acceptable?
It's not m8
Not where you are born. In other places it's possible.
Dosent make it right does it?
Whether it is right is based on what culture you grew up in. 'Right' and 'Wrong' are socially implicated and implemented.
What is right is a facet of what you and your contemporaries believe is right.
That's only true for certain things
Some people say that homosexuality or sodomy is immoral and wrong, and other's don't.
It's true for all things we find acceptable.