Message from @Yabai
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Which image
Light is not bending to cause the water to hide the light house...
This one.
maybe your mind is bending?
Atmospheric refraction can allow for us to see further past the curvature than we normally can.
i can bend my mind with metal, proof im psychic
Here's the thing. You can't just say 'refraction' and claim that you've debunked something. Refraction, especially in the atmosphere is a complex phenomenon. You have to explain how light is being refracted, and why it leads to the image appearing the way it does.
It's a illusion for me ,if we was able to see curvature down here ,we should see lots of it from up there ,and we don't
Do you know that the sea evaporates at a small scale? You put all the evaporation together and with refraction then you get places which should not be where they are. Your evidence isn't substantial
You are making an irrelevant claim, and then making new claim that is not backed up by your previous claim. On what basis is my evidence not substantial? 'Places which should not be where they are' can refer to many things. How does this lead to the light house being partly obscured by the sea?
'Places which should not be where they are' however does make sense if you are referring to objects which we cannot see (behind the curvature) becoming visible, as demonstrated in multiple illustrations if you look it up online.
You're putting a picture and saying it's proof for globe earth and forget to account refraction.
Also if your claim was true you should be able to see world curve a lot when you're on airplane but you don't. Wanna know why? Because what you saw was refraction.
interesting debate people
Okay, so that is the basis for your claim of my evidence not being substantial? This is a loop hole, though. I am already addressing your issues with that. I am asking you to explain how exactly atmospheric refraction causes the sea to obscure the lighthouse.
Once again, you are using refraction as a know-all-end-all word, and you are not explaining the mechanisms behind it.
@Yabai I'm not here to give you a lecture on atmospheric refraction, you can look up on google.
Okay, fine then. Here is an illustration.
so in short @FatBeat wants to make claims, and not explain how they make sense
How does this explain the lighthouse being hidden behind the ocean?
Yeah, pretty much.
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This phenomenon is actually proof for curvature, if anything. It allows us to see behind the curvature, much further than we would be able to otherwise.
The light that reflects off the lighthouse is deviated by the air density that you live in. After that you get an image which looks like it appears in a place where it shouldn't be.
is the lighthouse that reflective, that it reflects water?
'' Such refraction can also raise or lower, or stretch or shorten, the images of distant objects without involving mirages ''
My bad, made a typo there
you cant fite me, ill reflect you jk
You're misunderstanding the article here. Nowhere does it say that this phenomenon causes the obstruction of said distant objects by reflective surfaces, such as water.
"Astronomical or celestial refraction causes astronomical objects to appear higher above the horizon than they actually are. Terrestrial refraction usually causes terrestrial objects to appear higher than they actually are, although in the afternoon when the air near the ground is heated, the rays can curve upward making objects appear lower than they actually are. "
This is a further explanation in the article. It doesn't match your explanation.
I said the water evaporation is also another factor that can make the image look more dodgy.
"if the earth were a ball, why hasnt it bounced or rolled away?"
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lol
Okay, but you still can't link that to your initial claim that it is caused by atmospheric refraction. Not only that, but your initial claim doesn't match the article you've linked.