Message from @StoneCold316
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Sure, we can debate ^_^
2. Dondemocracies really wait for due process? Iraq war/ afghan war , one of them. Forgot which.
later great conversation
Do democracies *
4. Once decided to go to war, very monarch like SOPs are in play to mobilize forces.
Even in democracies
More at stake: more destruction. Democracies tend to be better financially and infrastructurally than Dictatorships. So more destruction
Harder to repair back
Stake is perceived loss by decision makers, not actual quantifiable loss.
A 50 store building is more expensive than a 10
Quantifiably more expensive yes?
No one does a cost benefit. Otherwise a lot of wars would not have happened. No?
Yes
If Germany went to war with France, it would be more destruction than Ghana and Uganda
Yea. For a neutral@observer. For Ghana every little bit they have is even more important
See what I@mean by perceived loss?
Yes. You are right
But it can be objectively cuantified also from a neutral standpoint in terms of monetary loss
Like after the war
Sure it can - just saying that is never a factor in deciding whether to go to war or not. Or almost never I should say. Because most times - not going to war saves more resources, yet that decision is not taken.
Yes I totally agree! That is why argument 1 i believe works
Because as you said not going to war saves resources
Example. - revenge for 9/11 in going to afghan war and fear mongering leading to belief that US sovereign land is at risk if they don’t
And Democracies have more than dictatorships
That perceived gain was bigger than the perceived loss —— what would a neutral cost benefit analyzer conclude?
Yea but Afganistan and Irak are not democracies yes?
Yes you are right
Afghan and Iraq didn’t decide to go to war. US did
Yes
Im talking about how decisions of war are made in the real world
Waging war*
Ah..on that topic yes
It’s almost never a cost benefit analysis.
Stone, why do Americans fear so much of Dictatorship? cause they live in a free world.
Is the fear justifiable by a neutral observer?
Dont know. But from my perspective it is unjustifiable
Same from my perspective
So we agree and can build on that
We can build even if we dont agree 😄
But we agree