Message from @Yussuki ₪
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It’s 3 along with a bit of skepticism in 5. I don’t think one can make that conclusion because I recognize the plethora of variables in any such analysis/ study required
Something like that
Hm. Very interesting ❤️
Glad you don’t think I’m afraid of criticism. I’m not even decided in my mind if any form of democracy is better than a theoretical benevolent monarchy 😉
Actual democracy*
However you wish to define.
Yes. Interesting. I have 1 Argument to support the statement that "Monarchies are better than democracies, because the Monarchs are more educated to take public office, because they are trained from young". Just saying. Just an intelectual argument
Yea. Also, All forms of actual on-ground democracy fail so often in the 4-5 criteria that you set
Yes, I agree
So really, I wonder if it’s even a sustainable model
Yes I wonder too.
Oftentimes ppl slander each other instead of debating ideas. Just saying. Whatever I say is in relationship with ideas not people 😛 Im not an imbecile. But I dont really mind if im slandered.
Anyway I believe that "Democracies are less likely to go at war with each other"
Argument 1 - There is more at stake than in an Dictatorship
I know you are - that discussion just went to a point where both of you were talking past each other and leading to frustration
😄 yea
Argument 2 - The mechanisms of declaring war are more difficult to achieve. - Achieveing consensus for war in a Democracy is harder
Argument 3 - Democracies tend to be economically interconected so people dont want war. Also, non-warring countries dont want war since they are also conected with democracies. Through trade and some other relationships
1. How is there more at stake? Actually more is at stake for the monarch (his empire, his land, his riches, his generations to come- all at stake)
Argument 4 - Democracies redirect resources harder for war than a dictatorship.
2. Dondemocracies really wait for due process? Iraq war/ afghan war , one of them. Forgot which.
later great conversation
Do democracies *
4. Once decided to go to war, very monarch like SOPs are in play to mobilize forces.
Even in democracies
More at stake: more destruction. Democracies tend to be better financially and infrastructurally than Dictatorships. So more destruction
Harder to repair back
Stake is perceived loss by decision makers, not actual quantifiable loss.
A 50 store building is more expensive than a 10
Quantifiably more expensive yes?
No one does a cost benefit. Otherwise a lot of wars would not have happened. No?
Yes
If Germany went to war with France, it would be more destruction than Ghana and Uganda
Yea. For a neutral@observer. For Ghana every little bit they have is even more important
See what I@mean by perceived loss?
Yes. You are right
But it can be objectively cuantified also from a neutral standpoint in terms of monetary loss
Like after the war
Sure it can - just saying that is never a factor in deciding whether to go to war or not. Or almost never I should say. Because most times - not going to war saves more resources, yet that decision is not taken.
So something perceived to be bigger than the perceived loss is at play