Message from @ola

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2020-09-29 22:40:01 UTC  

Prediction - JP won’t answer that question and go back to an assertion, while trying to show that ‘you also have faith in something’

2020-09-29 22:40:04 UTC  

They are arguing over the definition of "God." One is holding to the age-old definition, the other is arguing that "God" has been redefined.

2020-09-29 22:40:19 UTC  

"I act as if god exists" famous JP qoute

2020-09-29 22:40:21 UTC  

So why not just start with that JP. We’ve been through this script many times

2020-09-29 22:40:21 UTC  

who is which?

2020-09-29 22:40:29 UTC  

Yo mb about the mic

2020-09-29 22:40:33 UTC  

Never heared him dissown god

2020-09-29 22:40:56 UTC  

When I see "JP" I just think Jordan Peterson lmao.

2020-09-29 22:41:00 UTC  

Unifying theory

2020-09-29 22:41:05 UTC  

Lol

2020-09-29 22:41:46 UTC  

Ignoring the many fallacies to reach that conclusion definitively - Even if there is an unmoved mover force, it’s a force. No personal god, no Christ.

2020-09-29 22:41:57 UTC  

and btw, it works just as good without the assertion

2020-09-29 22:42:05 UTC  

We must not mistake the model that describes reality with reality itself

2020-09-29 22:42:23 UTC  

You can unify the 4 forces at sufficiently high energies. through renormalization.

2020-09-29 22:42:25 UTC  

@Smoke well I at least meant Jordan Peterson

2020-09-29 22:42:30 UTC  

In this case

2020-09-29 22:42:31 UTC  

Thanks

2020-09-29 22:42:44 UTC  

"The Universe requires a creator, therefore god, *but*, god does not require a creator because *insert special pleading*"

2020-09-29 22:42:56 UTC  

You cannot conflate physics with God. Physics does not have a will. God does.

2020-09-29 22:43:01 UTC  

Lol Jordan Peterson knows it’s a lie. He just makes the claim that it’s a useful lie and very powerful lie

2020-09-29 22:43:12 UTC  

Mother Nature @Smoke

2020-09-29 22:43:32 UTC  

How do we know physics has no will?

2020-09-29 22:43:33 UTC  

I can appreciate the way Peterson thinks/describes things

2020-09-29 22:43:36 UTC  

God is a matter of choice. You choose to believe or not. There is plenty of pie left for all of us 🥧

2020-09-29 22:44:12 UTC  

Flawless, lossless audio codec

2020-09-29 22:44:26 UTC  

Exactly zino - so is the tooth fairy 🙂

2020-09-29 22:44:29 UTC  

We know physics has no will because the laws of physics are reliably predictive.

2020-09-29 22:44:51 UTC  

We use heuristics all the time

2020-09-29 22:45:08 UTC  

Perhaps physics wills it to be so or seem so. For now.

2020-09-29 22:45:08 UTC  

This conversation is not rooted in anything...

2020-09-29 22:45:41 UTC  

To have a will you must have intelligence.

2020-09-29 22:45:48 UTC  

Lol - our agency and reality and will may be an illusion - it’s still our human condition.

2020-09-29 22:45:55 UTC  

And we have to deal with it

2020-09-29 22:46:11 UTC  

This is the ‘you can’t know anything for certain therefore god’ argument

2020-09-29 22:46:16 UTC  

Script level 1

2020-09-29 22:46:21 UTC  

Not talking about taxes anymore?

2020-09-29 22:46:21 UTC  

Yawn.

2020-09-29 22:46:25 UTC  

I had my mic muted

2020-09-29 22:46:30 UTC  

Why am I admin muted?

2020-09-29 22:46:31 UTC  

Nope. JP decided god

2020-09-29 22:46:32 UTC  

God is the Ultimate Taxe.