Happier if protocols work.

Because you will form your own Antibodies and be safer for the future. No vaccine needed than.

Yes ola. Tried to be as careful as possible, even if it added cost to the whole project

But zino - I heard that people are having long term trouble after corona?

Do the antibodies last forever? No. Are you immune forever anyway?

No, they don't last forever but the immune system memory is what really counts.

Right. But with vaccines, we need to get boosters ....

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Antibodies may have long gone, but the memory enables the immune system to fold the proteins faster in order to make a better approximation of antibodies next time

You may have up to 3 layers of response to foreign pathogens. Some say more.

Still debatable ^_^ Anyway, be grateful if you got Covid and felt no symptoms or mild ones.

... unless it has long term impacts we don’t know of yet

They will mutate to less dangerous, not to more dangerous. So rest assure, things will improve.

Ok. Who’s closing in on a vaccine?

Russia? USA? Romania?

Many countries claim to be close. Let's wait and see. However by the time the come up with a vaccine, it will already have mutated.

How did we make any vaccines then? Especially if viruses that lasted years without a vaccine?

No vaccine is perfect, even those custom made out of your own blood and excrements. There are many kinds of vaccines. When virologists set up a project for a vaccine, their goal is to cure most number of people with minimum resources. Because this way, the vaccine is more affordable for everyone. The flu vaccine is not perfect, otherwise nobody would make a mild flu every year. The goal is to avoid more severe symptoms, not to eradicate the disease.

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Appreciate having an in-house Doctor 😂

The faster a virus mutates, the faster it accumulates genetic material, thus making it physically heavier and less prone to transmission. The material it accumulates is redundant and doesn't add up to its severity. In a poetic way, you can say that the accumulated genetic material is a "virus" that "viruses" the virus. Because it hinders its ability to replicate inside a healthy cell, by damaging its previous replicating mechanism. Also, the "heavier" a virus is the harder is for it to survive. Imagine small dot in a droplet of water. The bigger the small dot becomes, the less water it has at its boundaries to protect it.

I see. Good insight

So rest assured Stone. You will be fine. Be grateful if you have it 😂

We will have to cope with it. No other choice for us humans 🐒

What I am really worried about in the future of humanity are Hybrid viruses. Hybrid meaning a mixture of DNA and RNA viruses. I am worried about them translating from birds to humans.

Trump and Melania have Covid

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tests-positive-covid

I hope Trumpy will be fine soon 🥳 We organize a prayer group for him this evening with some friends 😛 And discuss some philosophy... 😄 God bless him. He will surely be fine! 🍕 We need him to be ok👌

A utilitarian may wish for his death. Are they wrong?

I really would never wish for the death anyone

@Malachi I think there's an important distinction between wishing for someone's death and observing that someone's death has positive consequences (but preferring that those positive effects come about in some other way). And if someone is doing something sufficiently bad, and *their death is the only way to stop it*, I think it would actually be wrong **not** to want their death.

To take an extreme example (not trying to argue that Trump meets this standard), if killing Hitler were the only way to stop the holocaust, then I think it would be wrong to not want him to die - based on the way I set up the hypothetical situation, not wanting Hitler's death is implicitly equivalent to wanting the holocaust to continue, since those things are inextricably linked. So I don't think someone can categorically say that it's always wrong to wish for someone's death.

> @Malachi I think there's an important distinction between wishing for someone's death and observing that someone's death has positive consequences (but preferring that those positive effects come about in some other way). And if someone is doing something sufficiently bad, and *their death is the only way to stop it*, I think it would actually be wrong **not** to want their death.
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> To take an extreme example (not trying to argue that Trump meets this standard), if killing Hitler were the only way to stop the holocaust, then I think it would be wrong to not want him to die - based on the way I set up the hypothetical situation, not wanting Hitler's death is implicitly equivalent to wanting the holocaust to continue, since those things are inextricably linked. So I don't think someone can categorically say that it's always wrong to wish for someone's death.
@Katelyn I disagree

Lemme exaplain you

There has always been hatred towards Jews even before Hitler

Hitler is someone who has organised that hatred in such a way that it resulted in those mass killing a

If it wasn't for Hitler someone competent like Hitler would have done it

Note that in the way I set up my hypothetical, Hitler dying would guarantee that the holocaust would stop. I'm not saying that's necessarily true - I'm using a thought experiment to elucidate some of the underlying theoretical moral principles.

Israel wouldnt exist without Hitler

checkmate utlilitarians

Technically you're still using a utilitarian framework if you're claiming the existence of Israel is a net benefit

> Note that in the way I set up my hypothetical, Hitler dying would guarantee that the holocaust would stop. I'm not saying that's necessarily true - I'm using a thought experiment to elucidate some of the underlying theoretical moral principles.
@Katelyn see we have to identify the root cause for the problem, Hitler lived a life on the belief which has been down to him from his elders that Jews are parasites