Message from @lockwood

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2020-08-24 18:59:23 UTC  

I would call in capitalism personally if I were to give it a name

2020-08-24 19:00:10 UTC  

It’s not worshipped though. Valued yeah. But not worshipped. I’m a capitalist and I don’t find money worth worshipping. I’d imagine I’m not alone

2020-08-24 19:00:45 UTC  

@Delta You're not alone

2020-08-24 19:00:57 UTC  

If money beacomes everyday part of your life

2020-08-24 19:01:06 UTC  

than you worship money

2020-08-24 19:01:09 UTC  

no doubt

2020-08-24 19:01:42 UTC  

you get stressed beacuse of it

2020-08-24 19:01:43 UTC  

you dont litterally worship it, but effectily you do when all you do is chasing the proffits

2020-08-24 19:02:08 UTC  

@Delta The bible says whoever you obey is who you worship

2020-08-24 19:02:17 UTC  

when proffiting moneterily with your every action becomes a focuys, it in effect becomes the same

2020-08-24 19:02:46 UTC  

Yeah but people do things against theyreeconomic interest all the time.

2020-08-24 19:03:23 UTC  

people do things against religions interest all the time

2020-08-24 19:03:36 UTC  

you dont worship it right way

2020-08-24 19:03:40 UTC  

So pick one.

2020-08-24 19:03:53 UTC  

I pick family

2020-08-24 19:03:58 UTC  

and God

2020-08-24 19:04:14 UTC  

I mean it's pretty sad that a lot of people don't do something like have children because the economic calculation is first and foremost in their mind.

2020-08-24 19:04:15 UTC  

No I mean the worship/obey thing.

2020-08-24 19:04:37 UTC  

> I mean it's pretty sad that a lot of people don't do something like have children because the economic calculation is first and foremost in their mind.
@JustLookin

2020-08-24 19:05:00 UTC  

facts

2020-08-24 19:05:26 UTC  

money destroyed more lifes than any religion

2020-08-24 19:05:32 UTC  

Which I would say is pretty close to worshiping something when you're willing to put something like that on the backburner for it. Not to say money shouldn't factor in - just that it should be below something else in the consideration.

2020-08-24 19:06:29 UTC  

@Delta But don't you think even the most devout Christians often view the dollar as higher than God

2020-08-24 19:06:40 UTC  

Um. No

2020-08-24 19:07:26 UTC  

some use christ for dollars

2020-08-24 19:07:36 UTC  

?

2020-08-24 19:08:38 UTC  

@Delta How many Christians do you think work on Sunday and forego Church for the paycheck?

2020-08-24 19:09:12 UTC  

There’s a difference between skipping church and putting money above the ideals of your religion

2020-08-24 19:09:48 UTC  

@Delta Even if their bible tells them to?

2020-08-24 19:12:38 UTC  

It depends on the Christians personal understanding. There's a decent amount of NT stuff that seems to indicate that it's a-ok "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27), " just for example.

2020-08-24 19:43:05 UTC  

@JustLookin I agree whole heartedly that their personal understanding comes into play. Catholicism is one that prohibits working on Sunday. But many do.

2020-08-24 23:18:09 UTC  

@Jostein so then are you saying we shouldnt run our world moneterily

2020-08-24 23:32:09 UTC  

I grew up in an area with a lot of different branches of Christianity including Catholics, I can only remember the smaller ones adhering to the sunday thing. A lot of catholics are like a lot of Jews in that they are really only culturally religious and don't really care much besides the doing the rituals from time to time, so that complicates that matter.

2020-08-25 07:58:40 UTC  

@T2the2ndpowr Preferably yes, we shouldnt. But we are still fare away from being abel to. Mainly because money is a tool for controll like religion is. But ofcourse if people overall had good morality combined with knowledge and understanding to not be fooled by trickery, we could function with money. But if that was the case i dont think money would even be wanted.

2020-08-25 18:24:24 UTC  

But how would medicine be made and surgery be done without money

2020-08-25 18:24:31 UTC  

How would good he produced

2020-08-25 18:24:54 UTC  

How would technology be created and exploration be done without money

2020-08-25 18:25:01 UTC  

You need money to do all of these things

2020-08-25 18:29:35 UTC  

do you get payd to talk here? do you get payed to walk in the mountains to look for somethign you are interestedin finding? im guessing no. Google even ahve done tests with theire imployees where they moneterily incentiviesd then make good programs. but didjnt work too good. then they gave them free reign to work on what projects theyw anted for some time. that was when they came up with the best solutions and addons

2020-08-25 18:30:18 UTC  

Money isnt hwat motivates good action. its the want to do things that interests you and what you see is usefull .

2020-08-25 18:30:38 UTC  

That is very easy to say