Message from @William IV

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2020-10-05 22:50:17 UTC  

thats the biggest Oxymoron ive ever heard an "anti-religion religion"

2020-10-05 22:51:22 UTC  

a position on something isnt a religion

2020-10-05 22:53:02 UTC  

a religion is an attempt to explain nature and the cause of everything that we see around us and it is an absolute unchangeable truth

2020-10-05 22:53:25 UTC  

thats what a religion is

2020-10-05 23:04:44 UTC  

JP your failure is that you never ask enough questions. You are constantly telling me what I think. It is getting annoying.

I'm not against all religions. The Satanic Temple, and Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster seem just fine. Tarvuism seems great. Dudeism allows for robes, and beer.

What do I call that which allows for all things? I don't. It seems like a nonsense place to be. You are asking nonsense questions, answering them and then calling them God.

As followers of Dudeism would say, take it easy.

2020-10-05 23:06:13 UTC  

Scientology is as real a religion and worldview as is Christianity as is science

2020-10-05 23:06:29 UTC  

Science has better evidence and reproducibility

2020-10-05 23:12:51 UTC  

@JPMcGlone what is your definition of god

2020-10-05 23:14:00 UTC  

Because I don’t know where you’re coming from when you say god

2020-10-05 23:14:11 UTC  

So please tell me what you perceive god to be

2020-10-05 23:14:40 UTC  

God is whatever is outside human knowledge in his view

2020-10-05 23:15:43 UTC  

I’m going to hold off on believing you there because i want to hear it from him before I make any statements

2020-10-05 23:16:14 UTC  

So he doesn’t have the opportunity to say I’m misrepresenting his position or that I Didn’t let him define it before I said anything

2020-10-05 23:16:37 UTC  

The 2nd paragraph in his post

2020-10-05 23:17:51 UTC  

Oh yeah

2020-10-05 23:18:03 UTC  

I still don’t get it entirely so I want him to give a proper explanation

2020-10-05 23:18:05 UTC  

Science is 'collective concious of all selves'

2020-10-05 23:18:19 UTC  

Unless that was his proper explanation

2020-10-05 23:18:27 UTC  

But I’ll let him decide that

2020-10-05 23:18:32 UTC  
2020-10-05 23:18:46 UTC  

Individual info like ur experiences and personal knowledge is 'self'

2020-10-05 23:18:57 UTC  

Either way there is an unknown horizon

2020-10-05 23:19:13 UTC  

And christians say outside horizon is god

2020-10-05 23:19:44 UTC  

Science is pragmatic and actually tries to chip away at the boundary

2020-10-06 03:01:53 UTC  

I’m happy to ask questions. I also literally had your views before, and you don’t particularly ask questions either. At least I feel straw manned and not listened to frequently

2020-10-06 03:04:15 UTC  

I asked you to clarify what you mean by god so you don’t feel that way

2020-10-06 03:04:40 UTC  

So after you do that then we can get to proper discussion

2020-10-06 03:05:07 UTC  

True Allegiance

2020-10-06 03:08:36 UTC  

“God is whatever is outside human knowledge”

Not my view at all.

It’s hard to articulate the relationship between God and Knowledge. I will try to work on that.

But to me, God is that which is the source of all things. Much of which we CAN and DO know.

God is that which allows for relationships between things.

Hard to define, obviously, but all inquiries lead back to God in the same way that all definitions lead back to “is”

2020-10-06 03:09:20 UTC  

Alright

2020-10-06 03:09:26 UTC  

Glad we established that

2020-10-06 03:09:33 UTC  

You’re a Christian Right?

2020-10-06 03:09:39 UTC  
2020-10-06 03:10:09 UTC  

Yessir

2020-10-06 03:10:41 UTC  

Do you believe god to be a conscious entity?

2020-10-06 03:11:32 UTC  

when I was a christian I believed that God was an all powerful, all knowing being that supposedly loved everyone. and he could read my mind.

2020-10-06 03:12:10 UTC  
2020-10-06 03:14:00 UTC  

what is this link?

2020-10-06 03:14:12 UTC  

Answer on the existence of God

2020-10-06 03:14:17 UTC  

Good one read it