Message from @William IV
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thats the biggest Oxymoron ive ever heard an "anti-religion religion"
a position on something isnt a religion
a religion is an attempt to explain nature and the cause of everything that we see around us and it is an absolute unchangeable truth
thats what a religion is
JP your failure is that you never ask enough questions. You are constantly telling me what I think. It is getting annoying.
I'm not against all religions. The Satanic Temple, and Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster seem just fine. Tarvuism seems great. Dudeism allows for robes, and beer.
What do I call that which allows for all things? I don't. It seems like a nonsense place to be. You are asking nonsense questions, answering them and then calling them God.
As followers of Dudeism would say, take it easy.
Scientology is as real a religion and worldview as is Christianity as is science
Science has better evidence and reproducibility
@JPMcGlone what is your definition of god
Because I don’t know where you’re coming from when you say god
So please tell me what you perceive god to be
God is whatever is outside human knowledge in his view
I’m going to hold off on believing you there because i want to hear it from him before I make any statements
So he doesn’t have the opportunity to say I’m misrepresenting his position or that I Didn’t let him define it before I said anything
The 2nd paragraph in his post
Oh yeah
I still don’t get it entirely so I want him to give a proper explanation
Science is 'collective concious of all selves'
Unless that was his proper explanation
But I’ll let him decide that
Either way there is an unknown horizon
And christians say outside horizon is god
Science is pragmatic and actually tries to chip away at the boundary
I’m happy to ask questions. I also literally had your views before, and you don’t particularly ask questions either. At least I feel straw manned and not listened to frequently
I asked you to clarify what you mean by god so you don’t feel that way
So after you do that then we can get to proper discussion
True Allegiance
“God is whatever is outside human knowledge”
Not my view at all.
It’s hard to articulate the relationship between God and Knowledge. I will try to work on that.
But to me, God is that which is the source of all things. Much of which we CAN and DO know.
God is that which allows for relationships between things.
Hard to define, obviously, but all inquiries lead back to God in the same way that all definitions lead back to “is”
Alright
Glad we established that
You’re a Christian Right?
Yessir
Do you believe god to be a conscious entity?
when I was a christian I believed that God was an all powerful, all knowing being that supposedly loved everyone. and he could read my mind.
what is this link?
Answer on the existence of God
Good one read it