Are trans women real women?

Also what do you guys think defines the terms man and woman

Age you

It is true. trump never called covid19 a hoax. He was giving a speech that was talking about Covid and democrats at the same time. He called the impeachment a hoax. the main issue here is that this man is so terrible at speaking that he can be completely misunderstood. What a fuckup.

> Are trans women real women?
@kaizen It doesn't say "real man" on my birth certificate.

@Malachi agreed on the trump part, he sucks at speaking

But let me rephrase then, are trans women women?

Actually no let’s step back for a sec

What do you think the definition of a woman is? @Malachi

Gender and sex are different

Anyways. Just be accepting and compassionate...

That's the best approach to social situations

They are greatly related

Being accepting and compassionate to a schizophrenic person is not to play into their delusions

I’m asking the question because I’m questioning my own opinion and want to see other POVs

And @BobbyMack yes I agree. What’s your stance on transgenderism

> Being accepting and compassionate to a schizophrenic person is not to play into their delusions
@BobbyMack Are you making a clinical diagnosis?

No, I'm not diagnosing anyone

Well I agree with your statement. But I don't see the connection.

Many seem to think the best way to handle someone with gender dysphoria is sex reassignment therapy, or that society at large has to change its attitude.

Actually, now that I'm typing it, sex reassignment therapy sounds a lot more of a legit way to solve the problem than having society play into their imagined reality

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_therapy

Do people think that the process of gender reassignment is quick and slipshod?

No.

no way

No

Which is why it can be such a travesty if the person later wants the process reversed

it can be damn near impossible

Isn’t there a statistic that shows there’s actually a number of people that want to reverse it after going through it?

Let me try to find it if it exists.

Yes. It is VERY low

Really? I thought it was somewhere in the 40 percentile

Let me find it

No. the largest regret was not doing it sooner.

Found it

https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf

11% of male to female regret it, but only 4% of female to male regret it enough to want to go back

What page? I'm looking at the report.

I'm pretty sure 80% of all trans people are MTF

I have a difficulty in answering the original question because I've had such strange conversations on Twitter over the past few years where I've met extreme ideology on the matter.

My understanding of the trans-rights activism side of things is that from their point of view, anyone who says they are a woman is a woman, regardless of any changes or none.

I cannot really subscribe to that.

Well @ola this is why we need to get to the bedrock of why the trans suicide rate is so high. Is it because their genitalia is wrong, and the surgery will fix it? Or is it because of societal mistreatment? Because theoretically then, if society had less of a stigma around trans people, they wouldn't need to have sex reassignment therapy