So the only way to bring about an ancomm state would be to create a small commune with voluntary participants

done talking about peterson? the show today is going to be about it..

Otherwise you have to impose it by authoritarian means

And then U just have auth leftism

@Haze oh ok. I thought that was just a joke. For the record, he is not an atheist.

It really depends on how you define atheist

Here. we. go.

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I’m big on defininitions. Otherwise u just talk past each other

I share the importance to highlight definitions.

Yeah I think "define" must be the most used word in intellectual arena

I think for example that one of the main obstacles in the JP and sam harris discussion was the definition of god

Yes

Harriss is focused on metaphysics of an actual supreme being

He is a theist

Peterson more defined it as the ultimate ideal you strive to meet. Which can be personified as an agreement with an omniscient being

I don’t think e can actually know> He is a theist
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i really think even once you get past the definition theres still a bigger issue at hand

which is whats the need for one. and why do you need to believe in one.

if you say god is the ultimate ideal you strive to meet, then the word god just becomes a label.

I think there are a couple assumptions you have to make in life

ah huh.

that is interesting.

Like being is better than not being

That’s the big one in my eyes

I don’t know how you reason your way to that. If someone can I’d love to hear it.

Might ask that on the battlefield

mhm

In the epistles of Justin Martyr god is described as just that, a label.

To be frank I dont have any background on that reference.

I just read up a little.

very interesting

"the "seeds of Christianity" (manifestations of the Logos acting in history) actually predated Christ's incarnation. This notion allows him to claim many historical Greek philosophers (including Socrates and Plato), in whose works he was well studied, as unknowing Christians."

Anyhow I'm excited about the town hall today

Yes, Christian ideals did not arrive with Christ. They have been around...dare I say...since the garden of Eden.

There are 1000s of manuscripts and copies of manuscripts that describe Christianity. Some of which are more authoritative sources than the bible itself.

> There are 1000s of manuscripts and copies of manuscripts that describe Christianity. Some of which are more authoritative sources than the bible itself.
@Deleted User substantiate how that's not an argument from authority fallacy.

@m.miller give me a minute. I will try

Just got my hair wacked. Will be online in a half hour

@ThePangburn did you talk to the stylist about the pleasure drive while you got a haircut? Lol

Spreading the pleasure drive gospel. Gotta love it.