Message from @Delta

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2020-07-23 19:09:19 UTC  

Never

2020-07-23 19:09:41 UTC  

not everyone wants to live in a small village, and people who would like to do that are welcome to do it.

2020-07-23 19:09:45 UTC  

To scale such a system seems nigh impossible in my estimation

2020-07-23 19:09:47 UTC  

Exactly

2020-07-23 19:10:13 UTC  

So the only way to bring about an ancomm state would be to create a small commune with voluntary participants

2020-07-23 19:10:29 UTC  

done talking about peterson? the show today is going to be about it..

2020-07-23 19:10:29 UTC  

Otherwise you have to impose it by authoritarian means

2020-07-23 19:10:43 UTC  

And then U just have auth leftism

2020-07-23 19:12:42 UTC  

@Haze oh ok. I thought that was just a joke. For the record, he is not an atheist.

2020-07-23 19:13:08 UTC  

It really depends on how you define atheist

2020-07-23 19:13:36 UTC  

Here. we. go.

2020-07-23 19:13:48 UTC  

👍

2020-07-23 19:14:00 UTC  

I’m big on defininitions. Otherwise u just talk past each other

2020-07-23 19:15:06 UTC  

I share the importance to highlight definitions.

2020-07-23 19:15:21 UTC  

Yeah I think "define" must be the most used word in intellectual arena

2020-07-23 19:15:43 UTC  

I think for example that one of the main obstacles in the JP and sam harris discussion was the definition of god

2020-07-23 19:15:58 UTC  

Yes

2020-07-23 19:16:16 UTC  

Harriss is focused on metaphysics of an actual supreme being

2020-07-23 19:16:29 UTC  

He is a theist

2020-07-23 19:17:10 UTC  

Peterson more defined it as the ultimate ideal you strive to meet. Which can be personified as an agreement with an omniscient being

2020-07-23 19:17:28 UTC  

I don’t think e can actually know> He is a theist
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2020-07-23 19:18:22 UTC  

i really think even once you get past the definition theres still a bigger issue at hand

2020-07-23 19:19:07 UTC  

which is whats the need for one. and why do you need to believe in one.

2020-07-23 19:20:10 UTC  

if you say god is the ultimate ideal you strive to meet, then the word god just becomes a label.

2020-07-23 19:20:25 UTC  

I think there are a couple assumptions you have to make in life

2020-07-23 19:20:33 UTC  

ah huh.

2020-07-23 19:20:39 UTC  

that is interesting.

2020-07-23 19:20:48 UTC  

Like being is better than not being

2020-07-23 19:20:54 UTC  

That’s the big one in my eyes

2020-07-23 19:21:12 UTC  

I don’t know how you reason your way to that. If someone can I’d love to hear it.

2020-07-23 19:21:29 UTC  

Might ask that on the battlefield

2020-07-23 19:21:39 UTC  

mhm

2020-07-23 19:22:14 UTC  

In the epistles of Justin Martyr god is described as just that, a label.

2020-07-23 19:23:09 UTC  

To be frank I dont have any background on that reference.

2020-07-23 19:24:39 UTC  

I just read up a little.

2020-07-23 19:24:47 UTC  

very interesting

2020-07-23 19:25:21 UTC  

"the "seeds of Christianity" (manifestations of the Logos acting in history) actually predated Christ's incarnation. This notion allows him to claim many historical Greek philosophers (including Socrates and Plato), in whose works he was well studied, as unknowing Christians."

2020-07-23 19:25:27 UTC  

Anyhow I'm excited about the town hall today

2020-07-23 19:27:56 UTC  

Yes, Christian ideals did not arrive with Christ. They have been around...dare I say...since the garden of Eden.

2020-07-23 19:32:13 UTC  

There are 1000s of manuscripts and copies of manuscripts that describe Christianity. Some of which are more authoritative sources than the bible itself.

2020-07-23 19:33:01 UTC  

> There are 1000s of manuscripts and copies of manuscripts that describe Christianity. Some of which are more authoritative sources than the bible itself.
@Deleted User substantiate how that's not an argument from authority fallacy.