@TexasFreedomRoad Good morning brother or sister

Good Morning Shadetree49 You have a Blessed Day. I'm off to run some errands in the big city.

Poking the bear again, I've got another impertinent question. Can anyone show where the word Trinity is recorded in the Bible?

2 Corinthians 4:5-7

**2 Corinthians 4:5-7 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<5> For we do not proclaim ourselves; we proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord and ourselves as your slaves for Jesus' sake. <6> For it is the God who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. <7> But we have this treasure in clay jars, so that it may be made clear that this extraordinary power belongs to God and does not come from us. ```

@wheredowegofromhereQ Just curious, is your post a reply to my question or something else?

Random

https://therightscoop.com/christians-dragged-out-and-churches-destroyed-in-two-different-countries/

Isaiah 54:16-17

**Isaiah 54:16-17 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<16> See it is I who have created the smith who blows the fire of coals, and produces a weapon fit for its purpose; I have also created the ravager to destroy. <17> No weapon that is fashioned against you shall prosper, and you shall confute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and their vindication from me, says the Lord. ```

@Shadetree49 just type

+search Trinity

+search triune

interesting

+search threefold

https://carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/word-trinity-not-bible

@imig There are plenty of 'concepts' that can (and certainly have been) inferred from the scriptures. The best misinformation starts with a grain of truth. This controversy has simmered since the Trinity concept was first introduced at the council of Nicaea in about 340 AD. Many preachers who had been invited there were executed for disagreeing.

Provemewrong.

@Shadetree49 I have been reading about that today and it is great news. I will get back to you on that

@Shadetree49 there is not any info about that before the 14th century.

@Shadetree49 like to explain this to you sometime soon

There is God the Father, Son is Jesus Christ. Done deal

@QuikWit @imig Consider this alternate point of view. There is a Godhead. It is comprised of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There is also only one God. Now reconcile the two seemingly contradictory positions. Look at the timeline. In the Old Testament God was represented as the Father, presiding OVER the people. At the advent of Jesus, God came down into a mortal body and dwelt WITH the people, yet still remained over the people. John called Him the Logos, or the very essence of God. When Jesus ascended back to heaven in bodily form He sent back the Holy Spirit to live IN the people. Same God in all three forms. Just getting closer to His children through time.

Look at Mathew 28:19 Jesus, before He ascended, commanded that new believers were to be baptized in the NAME of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. Now notice that 'name' is singular. What is the name. It is the Lord Jesus Christ. Break that down and realize we have one Lord and Father of us all. Jesus was/is the earthly name of the Son. It literally means Jehovah s Savior. The Holy Ghost/Spirit is the 'breath' of God, the life giving force.

**Matthew 28:19 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<19> Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ```

By the way, the term baptism infers a total immersion.

@Shadetree49 thats exactly what the trinity is supposed to mean, god in 3 forms. 👏

http://www.cantoncommunitybaptist.com/uploads/3/8/6/7/38672007/737386064_orig.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_of_the_Trinity

The problem with those diagrams is the same as the problem with the word Trinity. It is finite man trying to describe the infinite God. Any definition you attribute to Him has the effect of limiting Him. You're encapsulating Him in a nice neat package you can get your mind around. Think outside the box. There are no boundaries on God. Perhaps the apostle John said it best when he said that God is light and God is love.

That too sets limits. Before there was light God was there. He spoke and light came to be.

That was before He was The Father and then The Son and Then the Holy Ghost. That assumes a timeline but He created time.

Does He not have those attributes within Himself and yet He is so much more.

I must stop here. I have already, because I am finite like you, been trying to describe The Infinite God.

He gave us his Word, set down in a love letter called the Bible, written by prophets and sages moved by the Holy Spirit over thousands of years. It's all verifiable by putting it to the test. All His promises can be attained by His children through faith. The faith He places in our hearts.

As He warns us in the book of Revelation, don't add to or take away from His Word. It's all we need.

@Shadetree49 amen

@clarion1 Thank you. Trying to think at this level can (if I'm not there already) drive one crazy.