Well Trump constantly talked about on the campaign trail how fast real wages are rising lol

And yes there is evidence that wages fall due to free trade along with immigrations and yes there are economists who I’m sure disagree but I can’t quite name right now off the top of my head

So from immigration or free trade?

Those are 2 broad categories lol

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/%3famp=1

I would argue both

There's no evidence that is from free trade

Did you not see the NAFTA article

I'd argue it's from policies that benefit rich and tax cuts

NAFTA drove down US wages

Well of course the poor are always getting fucked over by the rich

Always have and always will and free trade such as NAFTA is part of it

In the NPR article. I don't see that

Don’t see what

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Where does it say NAFTA lowered wages

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/08/10/america-wage-growth-is-getting-wiped-out-entirely-by-inflation/%3foutputType=amp

U.S. Wages Were Suppressed
Not all companies in these industries moved to Mexico. But some used the threat of moving as leverage against union organizing drives. When workers had to choose between joining the union and losing the factory, workers chose the plant. Without union support, the workers had little bargaining power. That suppressed wage growth. According to Kate Bronfenbrenner of Cornell University, many companies in industries that were moving to Mexico used the threat of closing the factory.3 Between 1993 and 1999, 64% of U.S. manufacturing firms in those industries used that threat. By 1999, the rate had grown to 71%.

I honestly dont see that

Ok ok. That's talking about a specific group of companies that were being outsourced

That says nothing about the overall economy

https://www.epi.org/publication/unfair-trade-deals-lower-the-wages-of-u-s-workers/

But your talking about free trade

And NAFTA

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The article

Just presupposes a claim with no evidence lol

They just vaguely say wage losses are 37 billion assuming x,y,z, over an unknown period which may or may not be due to the trade deal in question. Do you have any actual studies that actually demonstrate a specific trade deal had a negative effect on overall US wages

I’ve posted several articles which one are you referring to. Also someone else can tag in if they’d like I’m sort of chilling for the night now not trying to debate. I can resume tomorrow

Also there are many studies one can find on the matter of wages and free trade and the negative consequences of such actions

Even granted you are right about the wage issue(which u arent), solving wealth inequality can be done thru tax policy and others ways, not shooting ourselves in the foot by reducing trade and reducing our overall gdp. It's about making the pie as large as possible and then deciding how to slice it up

GDP NUMBER GO UP

Using neoliberal talking points to prove why free trade = good is pretty telling bud

the GDP is an arbitrary judgement of economic health, as much of that number is just bloat being horded by a very small clique, not being reinvested into the working class or stimulating the proper function of an economy

HDI and monetary value are far more reliable

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It's not necessarily neoliberal, there are plenty of other reasons to support free trade as do many libertarians and socialists. GDP is in no way arbitrary, what the hell does that even mean, gdp is "bloat used by a very small clique". If your problem is with wealth inequality, I would agree in supporting a more progressive tax structure. Also, I have no clue what you mean by the proper functions of am economy are.

While I can demonstrate that free trade benefits all sides involved by increasing productivity, increasing overall numbers of jobs, and drastically lowering cost of goods, all you can do is vaguely strawman my position

Also btw there is no evidence free trade reduces HDI

Honestly why are you here if you're clearly more economically in line with charlie kirk and his clique of fags