Message from @Majes

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2019-03-15 10:16:01 UTC  

@Sara you are right

2019-03-15 10:24:41 UTC  

@Anastasia Romanoff - The translation of that Latin hymn presented in the video you posted is controversial. I'm not Catholic, but I do feel it's important we remain fair & balanced in our evaluation of evidence, so here's the alternative take:

http://latindiscussion.com/forum/latin/flammas-eius-lucifer-matutinus-inv%C3%A9niat-ille-inquam-lucifer-qui-nescit-occ%C3%A1sum-christus-f%C3%ADlius.14071/

2019-03-15 10:25:10 UTC  

The idea that Lucifer must always refer to Satan doesn't appear to be the case in Christian history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_of_Cagliari

2019-03-15 10:27:25 UTC  
2019-03-15 10:29:43 UTC  

There's also this evidence to show that in the Vulgate Latin translation, the Latin "lucifer" is used to refer to Jesus as Morning Star in other hymns.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435869520998170624/556061461676556320/unknown.png

2019-03-15 10:30:40 UTC  

@Sara good night... sleep well

2019-03-15 10:31:19 UTC  

@Nothing Stella Maris = Star of the Sea

2019-03-15 10:32:15 UTC  

@LegLamp - Stella Maris sometimes refers to an icon of the Virgin Mary. Stella Matutina in the Vulgate; a very literal rendering of Greek's Heosphorus; bright & shining star. It's a reference to Venus which in spring precedes the rising of the sun

2019-03-15 10:32:36 UTC  

Fitting metaphor for Easter which occurs in Spring & celebrates the resurrection of the True Light which Enlightens the World.

2019-03-15 10:33:34 UTC  

However, lucifer in Latin also refers to Venus so it's likely that's what's being referred to in the hymn.

2019-03-15 10:34:13 UTC  

What is the point you are trying to make?

2019-03-15 10:34:49 UTC  

Someone posted a video of a Catholic Easter Hymn early where the author of the video tries to suggest that the Pope was praising Lucifer (Satan)

2019-03-15 10:35:10 UTC  

Yes I seen that .

2019-03-15 10:35:52 UTC  

Just sharing some data on an alternative point of view based on the history of the hymn. It's likely just a reference to Christ as morning star; a reference to Revelation

2019-03-15 10:37:31 UTC  

Right .....Q Map says........

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435869520998170624/556063425021739018/unknown.png

2019-03-15 10:39:20 UTC  

We do know he is from a communist country though... Let's see where it all goes... "Pray and Keep Watch"

2019-03-15 10:41:48 UTC  

@LegLamp - Amen to that. All the more reason to critically examine the evidence & strive to present truth. Even if Pope Francis is a devil-worshiping baby eater, it doesn't alter the context & history of that hymn. It's one reason the elites hide behind symbolism & metaphorical language; because they can give the outward appearance of Christian piety while inwardly holding a different meaning to the words & intending to worship someone else. We see this doctrine in both Jewish & Muslim teaching on religious dissumulation

2019-03-15 10:43:28 UTC  

Agree

2019-03-15 10:43:39 UTC  
2019-03-15 10:43:44 UTC  

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2019-03-15 10:55:53 UTC  

Nz

2019-03-15 10:57:48 UTC  

โ“โ“โ“ Did RBG turn 86 today or did she remain 85โ“โ“โ“

2019-03-15 10:58:12 UTC  

๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†

2019-03-15 10:58:16 UTC  

welcome

2019-03-15 10:59:05 UTC  

no worries ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2019-03-15 11:01:16 UTC  

morning

2019-03-15 11:01:16 UTC  

You have gained a rank @Majes, you just advanced to 7 . Thanks for all you do Patriot!

2019-03-15 11:02:36 UTC  

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2019-03-15 11:05:28 UTC  

yes, a daaughter

2019-03-15 11:06:04 UTC  

and a son evidently

2019-03-15 11:24:27 UTC  

"Police said that they have a suspect in custody but it is unclear if he is the shooter" Somebody is going to jail even if it isn't this guy he will be blamed for the crime

2019-03-15 11:33:57 UTC  

Last night's Hannity worth watching.

2019-03-15 11:40:14 UTC  

@BACFA Saw that this morning on F&F and it was comical for sure.

2019-03-15 11:42:15 UTC