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God's eternal knowledge means he knows what all is going to happen

He can know wether or not and can control your destination, but willingly chooses to forfeit this information, but can access it any time

You cannot say he willingly chooses to forfeit it, but even if he does, the fact that he can access it still means he has eternal knowledge of all time

Making everything that happens determined

No

God's knowledge is not variable

Otherwise he is not all knowing

If he knows all that is to happen, then what will happen is determined as a result and not by action

And his intervention will not change that

For his eternal knowledge will include knowing of his intervention

Now, any anthromorphic attempts to this misses the point

Knowing all that will happen means what will happen is set in stone

If free will were true God could not know your next move

@el pebble God is not unjust

things are pre determined until we come in a situation where we have free will

100% predetermination is a heretic belief because it says that God causes us to sin

which is wrong

You have not read anything I said

I specifically partition acting on determination and it being a factor of eternally knowing

I am divided, I understand your reasoning but I will need to think about this long afterwards to fully grasp the full extent of it. But you may be wrong as well.

Like what you do you would do in all scenario the exact same as the one you are in. Along with everyone else in their scenarios. Meaning God just knows what we will do but is not forcing us to do this. @el pebble Am I somewhat understanding what you are saying right?

@Victor Von Doom God does not predetermine the action, but what happens is determined to happen by virtue of eternal knowledge being present. That means we inherently will do what is determined but we freely choose this divinely known trajectory @Victor Von Doom

This is where we decide free will is not true

Because we are not choosing without arbitration a set of outcomes

Because what was said before posits other outcomes are imaginary and not possibly entertained

So since we were born everything that has happened was going to happen, but at the same time we chose our actions which led to this?

Issue is if we assume the omnipiscent god, then he knows what you will do no matter what you choose to do far into the future, in that sense it is determiend. However you are yourself not aware of what is to happen however you will do it anyway. There is a greek tragedy that goes along with this in how the oracle tells a boy he will kill his father, the boy grows up and leaves purposefully to avoid doing this, meeting an old man on the street, a beggar who latches on to im he accidentally kills him, and upon returning home learns that the man he killed was his father.

its that sort of thing, this man knew what was the result but was unable to chage it albeit trying to avoid it he in fact led to the very outcome he tried to avoid. If we choose things each day they set us on a course unless we decide otherwise. Each time we decide otherwise we are set on a new course and as such each decision predetermines a set of conditions we will encounter. With everyone doing this at the same time we are in a way predetermined to do something when we are 80 because of what we did when we are 5 even though these are seemingly unrelated decisions and events. However the nature of being omnipiscent is that of knowing the future as well.

@K3 @шпијун Exactly! If Muslims hate the west so much, WHY do they want to live here??? It makes no sense. Go back to the Middle East if you want to practice your suicidal religion.

@Bogatyr Bogumir I agree and appreciate the well worded explanation.

they just want to leech off the welfare

@Victor Von Doom so free will cannot exist

Because there is no decision free from arbitration

@el pebble God can just give us free will

He isn't bound by our laws of logic

@Doctor Anon that is not a solution to the issue

And you are assuming God's nature

I said can

Being God he can do absolutely everything

It's a null point

Including giving us free will to choose or reject Jesus