Message from @CALEB3613

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2018-12-11 18:50:16 UTC  

murtad retard

2018-12-11 19:08:20 UTC  

Holy fuck

2018-12-11 19:08:29 UTC  

Unholy fuck*

2018-12-11 19:55:47 UTC  

Dumbass

2018-12-11 21:32:54 UTC  

I’m an atheist but I still respect those with religious beliefs

2018-12-11 21:33:13 UTC  

shutup atheist

2018-12-11 21:33:16 UTC  

It’s the atheists who are obnoxious about the fact they are atheist who I dislike

2018-12-11 21:33:52 UTC  

Atheist can still be of good morality

2018-12-11 21:34:12 UTC  

In my opinion it has to do a lot with upbringing

2018-12-11 21:34:37 UTC  

A child not brought up correctly will be more likely to go into degeneracy

2018-12-11 21:35:45 UTC  

You can't claim that someone is good, bad, or that morality is even existent if you are an atheist.

2018-12-11 21:36:24 UTC  

And why does my identity as an atheist immediately make that the case

2018-12-11 21:36:32 UTC  

You can't live a moral life if there is no objective standard to compare it to

2018-12-11 21:36:43 UTC  

Your basically playing the same identity politics game the left does

2018-12-11 21:36:49 UTC  

You are of course able to have an opinion

2018-12-11 21:37:06 UTC  

but it's not incredibly valid seeing as there's no way for it to have an objective basis

2018-12-11 21:37:43 UTC  

You can still have an objective goal as an atheist. Mine being to live a good life and be a good person

2018-12-11 21:38:37 UTC  

a goal sure

2018-12-11 21:38:48 UTC  

just not an objective moral standard

2018-12-11 21:39:16 UTC  

and in this case a "good" life and being a "good" person are just based off of how you interpret good

2018-12-11 21:40:08 UTC  

I understand what you mean when you say there is no standard to compare to

2018-12-11 21:40:34 UTC  

In my case the standard is just stay in school, don’t do drugs, and get a job

2018-12-11 21:41:16 UTC  

That's a rather common set of goals

2018-12-11 21:41:31 UTC  

but it's hard to stick to unless you have a very string will

2018-12-11 22:48:54 UTC  

You can be a moral atheist

2018-12-11 22:49:16 UTC  

But an atheist cannot use atheistic reasoning for morality

2018-12-11 22:57:49 UTC  

^

2018-12-12 00:47:58 UTC  

a world with no religion, so basically mass degeneracy and trannyism, potentially a lack of societal and technological progress and falling into a downward spiral where the lifespan stops at 20 because people are nihilists and see who can cut themselves the deepest the fastst to be edgy

2018-12-12 00:54:39 UTC  

That ain't true nihilism, Nihilism seeks to replace religion with culture and the arts as a framework of morality.

2018-12-12 00:55:38 UTC  

I'm a religious man myself, I'm not an edgy atheist teen but Nihilism can make sense if you dont believe in a God as a moral compass.

2018-12-12 00:56:17 UTC  

Even Nietzsche saw the value of religious order despite his distaste of it.

2018-12-12 01:02:19 UTC  

I won’t lie when I say a lot of religion definitely promotes good values and gives people a sense of hope and community

2018-12-12 01:02:41 UTC  

I just have a distaste’s for cults that attempt to control every aspect of people’s lives

2018-12-12 01:02:52 UTC  

Ones like Jehovah’s witnesses

2018-12-12 03:14:42 UTC  

free will does not exist

2018-12-12 06:08:00 UTC  

@el pebble how do you know that?

2018-12-12 06:19:05 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir There might is a god, but so far, no religion is convincing enough for me to believe in some specific god.

2018-12-12 06:20:20 UTC  

I used to be an Orthodox Christian.

2018-12-12 06:22:40 UTC  

And there are also many moral atheists.

2018-12-12 06:23:15 UTC  

This is a very retarded stereotype. If you're an athesi you will either be gay or degenerate.

2018-12-12 06:23:22 UTC  

Not true.