Message from @CALEB3613
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That'd be lit
a lack of religion or spirituality means a lack of objective morality and will always lead to degeneracy
I could care less about religion
Deism for the win.
@Obungus yeah for example look at this shit
abdullah sameer is the exmuslim
murtad retard
Holy fuck
Unholy fuck*
Dumbass
I’m an atheist but I still respect those with religious beliefs
shutup atheist
It’s the atheists who are obnoxious about the fact they are atheist who I dislike
Atheist can still be of good morality
In my opinion it has to do a lot with upbringing
A child not brought up correctly will be more likely to go into degeneracy
You can't claim that someone is good, bad, or that morality is even existent if you are an atheist.
And why does my identity as an atheist immediately make that the case
You can't live a moral life if there is no objective standard to compare it to
You are of course able to have an opinion
but it's not incredibly valid seeing as there's no way for it to have an objective basis
You can still have an objective goal as an atheist. Mine being to live a good life and be a good person
a goal sure
just not an objective moral standard
and in this case a "good" life and being a "good" person are just based off of how you interpret good
I understand what you mean when you say there is no standard to compare to
In my case the standard is just stay in school, don’t do drugs, and get a job
That's a rather common set of goals
but it's hard to stick to unless you have a very string will
You can be a moral atheist
But an atheist cannot use atheistic reasoning for morality
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a world with no religion, so basically mass degeneracy and trannyism, potentially a lack of societal and technological progress and falling into a downward spiral where the lifespan stops at 20 because people are nihilists and see who can cut themselves the deepest the fastst to be edgy
That ain't true nihilism, Nihilism seeks to replace religion with culture and the arts as a framework of morality.
I'm a religious man myself, I'm not an edgy atheist teen but Nihilism can make sense if you dont believe in a God as a moral compass.
Even Nietzsche saw the value of religious order despite his distaste of it.
I won’t lie when I say a lot of religion definitely promotes good values and gives people a sense of hope and community
I just have a distaste’s for cults that attempt to control every aspect of people’s lives
Ones like Jehovah’s witnesses