Message from @Obungus

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2018-06-24 12:47:16 UTC  

You could argue a lot

2018-06-24 12:47:30 UTC  

He refused to handle the situation properly during the lame duck period

2018-06-24 12:47:30 UTC  

As to whys secession was a consideration

2018-06-24 12:47:46 UTC  

I know why, Its the jews.

2018-06-24 12:47:50 UTC  

However lincoln being elected is what triggered secession

2018-06-24 12:48:21 UTC  

Right, but Taylor could have done anything to stop it

2018-06-24 12:48:25 UTC  

And he refused to

2018-06-24 12:48:57 UTC  

That's indirect

2018-06-24 12:49:12 UTC  

Furthermore, it's still hotly debated if states have the actual right to leave the union- all we can say for sure is that they entered a state of rebellion

2018-06-24 12:49:30 UTC  

States do not have the right to leave the union.

2018-06-24 12:49:36 UTC  

That's a separate issue

2018-06-24 12:49:37 UTC  

I think the precedent for that was very clearly set.

2018-06-24 12:50:02 UTC  

Many countries explicitly state in their constitutions it is illegal to secede.

2018-06-24 12:50:09 UTC  

I would tend to agree

2018-06-24 12:50:18 UTC  

Otherwise it's an unwritten rule and in America's case there is a precedent for it.

2018-06-24 12:51:08 UTC  

There is no clearly defined law about secession

2018-06-24 12:52:00 UTC  

And?

2018-06-24 12:52:15 UTC  

America's legal system is common law.

2018-06-24 12:52:30 UTC  

if a state secedes just nuke it

2018-06-24 12:52:50 UTC  

don't forget that you most likely have a few silos there

2018-06-24 12:53:24 UTC  

That's ridiculous

2018-06-24 12:53:33 UTC  

They're still Americans

2018-06-24 12:53:36 UTC  

@Josh42A The best president was John Tyler because he btfo'd Congress, worst is Drumpf because he deports mexicans.

2018-06-24 12:53:53 UTC  

Trump isn't *that* bad

2018-06-24 12:54:01 UTC  

@Obungus Unless the state has a constitution, it is an anarchic state full of barbarians.

2018-06-24 12:54:19 UTC  

That just isn't true

2018-06-24 12:54:22 UTC  

And even if it does it poses a threat to national security

2018-06-24 12:54:29 UTC  

It's in the Declaration of the Rights of Man

2018-06-24 12:54:35 UTC  

So does nuking one of our own states

2018-06-24 12:54:43 UTC  

It's not our own state if it secedes.

2018-06-24 12:54:52 UTC  

I agree that secession shouldn't be toelrated

2018-06-24 12:54:59 UTC  

But nuking them is not the solution

2018-06-24 12:55:26 UTC  

Would it work?

2018-06-24 12:55:41 UTC  

Maybe

2018-06-24 12:55:57 UTC  

But that should be a last option

2018-06-24 12:56:08 UTC  

@Deleted User blow jobs are better than congress

2018-06-24 12:56:23 UTC  

agree ^

2018-06-24 12:56:34 UTC  

@Obungus Didn't Gandhi invent the nuke?

2018-06-24 12:56:41 UTC  

Gandhi should be held to a higher standard.

2018-06-24 12:56:42 UTC  

/\

2018-06-24 12:56:45 UTC  

he did